New battery fitting

[StagnJag]

What a PITA this is as a ‘routine’ job! You of course have to remove the power steering pump and slip off its belt, and one of the three bolts is pretty inaccessible. I have the grazed knuckles to prove it. Also, on mine the steering pump bolts are (standard) AF whereas the battery terminal nuts are (non-standard?) metric!

My old battery held an apparently good charge, more than strong enough to churn the engine over as normal. But the voltage level was not good enough to fire up the Lumenition system, witnessed by no spark at the plugs. So, with new battery (Halfords £102) in place it fired up first time and all is back to normal. Now, where did I put those elastoplasts…….
PK

I found that the best spanner fit for the battery terminal nuts was a whitworth size. Metric doesn't seem to fit all that well either. I couldn't tell you what size off the top of my head. The battery wiring in mine looks knackered enough to be original!

Rgds

Dave

[Paul Kelley]

Thanks all for putting my, let's face it, very minor inaccessible bolt whinge into perspective!

[gbb483]

If you are laying up a car / caravan / boat over the winter, you must disconnect the battery and give it a top-up charge once a month. The alternative is a new battery every year.

[Motorsport Micky]

If you are laying up a car / caravan / boat over the winter, you must disconnect the battery and give it a top-up charge once a month. The alternative is a new battery every year.

Hence the rise in popularity of continuously connected battery chargers providing monitored measuring and varying battery charging allowing batteries in laid up cars to be in fine condition and ready for use at a moments notice.

Micky

[4x4]

Starter motor bolts on my 4x4 Stag.
Requires removal of front suspension legs complete with hubs, driveshafts, exhaust pipes, front diff and subframe.

[StagnJag]

Ouch!

[hoddle10]

All of you people talking about battery removal,no one has mentioned what type.Mine has just died it is (was) a 077 which was fitted by RAC some time ago it is quite a bit smaller than the 069 which is recommended for the Stag. It seems to have been up to the job and would be lot easier to get in and put the clamp on. Any thoughts.
Thanks

[sxl01]

Hi I am in a similar position, what is a reasonable size/type replacement Ah battery. Mine is a Bosch "silver" in since 2000, when the lights are on the car will not start, the starter will not even click so I guess it is goosed, ta

[marshman]

Hi I am in a similar position, what is a reasonable size/type replacement Ah battery. Mine is a Bosch "silver" in since 2000, when the lights are on the car will not start, the starter will not even click so I guess it is goosed, ta

This is info from LDParts website:

"You are looking for a 55Amp hour Battery that is sized as follows
265mm long (10.5ins) and this should not be exceeded
175mm wide (6.9ins)
206mm high (8.1ins)

The correct type is an 071 but this is largely obsolete now and an 089 type can be used instead.
Way back an 072 was suggested for heavy duty, but some versions of this in the 1990's were too long. However since 2000 there may be some correctly sized 072 types back on the market
Unipart GBA3072 (Discovery and Range Rover to 1998) is a possibility.

Since not all Brands offering 071 or 089 (or 072) types adhere to the case dimensions mentioned above they should be checked on your intended purchase, especially the length which allows space for the hold down strap rod to fit into place. "

link here to terminal pictures

http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=396&cat=70&maincat=1&start=0&sid=sidd6fb2

I have an 072 fitted to mine - it's a tight fit.

HTH

Roger

[Tdm]

I have to source my Batteries locally, so the choice is not the same as it is in the U.K.
However as I had just replaced the Alternator with an 80Amp one, when it was time to change the Battery I opted for a matching 80Amp one also. I measured the gap I had and chose an 80Amp Battery that just fitted, but I do have a cut-out in the metal bodywork just above the battery which allows for easier removal and re-fitting. See the photo below. The earth strap goes first via bolt to the engine near the power steering housing (you can just see it in the photo), then continues onto the bodywork itself. You can perhaps also just notice the red removable Earth Key also, but since the picture was taken I have since re-positioned it.

[sxl01]

This is info from LDParts website:

"You are looking for a 55Amp hour Battery that is sized as follows
265mm long (10.5ins) and this should not be exceeded
175mm wide (6.9ins)
206mm high (8.1ins)

The correct type is an 071 but this is largely obsolete now and an 089 type can be used instead.
Way back an 072 was suggested for heavy duty, but some versions of this in the 1990's were too long. However since 2000 there may be some correctly sized 072 types back on the market
Unipart GBA3072 (Discovery and Range Rover to 1998) is a possibility.

Since not all Brands offering 071 or 089 (or 072) types adhere to the case dimensions mentioned above they should be checked on your intended purchase, especially the length which allows space for the hold down strap rod to fit into place. "

link here to terminal pictures

http://www.ldpart.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=396&cat=70&maincat=1&start=0&sid=sidd6fb2

I have an 072 fitted to mine - it's a tight fit.

HTH

Roger

Thanks Roger, that is very useful, ta

[sxl01]

What a PITA this is as a ‘routine’ job! You of course have to remove the power steering pump and slip off its belt, and one of the three bolts is pretty inaccessible. I have the grazed knuckles to prove it. Also, on mine the steering pump bolts are (standard) AF whereas the battery terminal nuts are (non-standard?) metric!

My old battery held an apparently good charge, more than strong enough to churn the engine over as normal. But the voltage level was not good enough to fire up the Lumenition system, witnessed by no spark at the plugs. So, with new battery (Halfords £102) in place it fired up first time and all is back to normal. Now, where did I put those elastoplasts…….
PK

Hi Paul, what rating is the battery you put in to suit the Lumeni
tion

[Lingen]

SX. There is something a bit odd going on there. If there was enough power/voltage in your battery to spin the engine over, there should have been more than enough to operate the Lumenition kit. I would expect that to keep working at voltages below that necessary to operate the starter. I would take this as a warning that the Lumenition system is not working as it should be, and might be getting "Tired".
Time will tell!
Mike.

[Paul Kelley]

Hi SX. I used the LD Parts guide (see above posts) and went onto the Halfords website and selected a 570 HCB 072 Calcium battery with a 4 yr guarantee for £102. They offer an alternative standard battery for £92. The 570 just squeezes into the space (I did check the measurements before buying....). Make sure you fit it the right way round so you can connect cables to terminals! Here's the Halford's link if you need it:

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/car-batteries?cm_re=SideNav-_-bulbsbladesbatteries-_-carbatteries

Paul

[Paul Kelley]

Hi again SX, Mike. Sorry, meant to also add to the above that the Lumenition system requires a minimum (quite high) charge to function. My experience was that I had enough charge to turn over easily but no spark. The battery would appear to hold a charge but lost a significant amount on initial turn over again. The new battery has fixed the problem and nothing wrong with the Lumenition system even though pretty old.
Paul