Notchy and whining clutch

[hoffers]

Hi all,

Just acquired my first Stag a few weeks back from a dealer in Epping and I'm a recent recruit to SOC.
The car came with a huge folder of history including receipt for new clutch fitted quite recently but I'm having a few issues with the clutch.
When clutch pedal is depressed the clutch whines 8 times out of 10 and when the car is warmed up the 2nd and 3rd gears are more difficult to engage and the pedal is notchy, so much so that it is easy to stall the car because of it.
When the clutch is whining the gear lever feels like it is vibrating on something, too.
The car is a manual transmission.

The dealer is happy to finance the repairs but as I live 200 miles away it is easier for my mechanic to do the work in York, where I'm based.
The clutch is currently off the car and stripped down with no obvious faults apparent.
The release bearing seems to slide okay so just wondered whether anyone has had a similar problem?

Look forward to hearing from you.

cheers
Tony (Hoffers)

[Guest]

Was it the Epping car company by any chance? I bought my Stag from them. I had to replace my complete clutch,(plate,pressure plate and bearing) It sounds as though it's your release bearing. The notchy feel may be because the clutch needs bleeding, or the first motion shaft is slightly out of alignment. The latter is quite common as the gearboxes are a pig to lign up!

Hope this helps
By the way, welcome o the Forum and Stag ownership, may your pockets be forever empty!

Jason

[Guest]

Just a little extra, LD parts sell a dowel bolt to help with gearbox alignment.

Jason

[JesusofCool]

Welcome Tony. Nice to see you redressed the Stag population of York. I brought mine down from up there in October.

Pictures of the car are obligatory for proud new owners.

[hoffers]

Hi,

Thanks for the info thus far, much appreciated.
Yes indeed it was the Epping Motor Company. They have been OK and I got a three month warranty so all is covered.

I'll invest in a new release bearing plus the alignment dowel which I saw reference to when searching the web.
cheers

Tony

[robertt1948]

Hi,

Thanks for the info thus far, much appreciated.
Yes indeed it was the Epping Motor Company. They have been OK and I got a three month warranty so all is covered.

I'll invest in a new release bearing plus the alignment dowel which I saw reference to when searching the web.
cheers

Tony

Hi Tony,
I've got a similar problem with my car. I fitted a new clutch a few thousand miles ago and it's whirrs and growls after the car has stood for a few hours. I've been told that most clutches sold for Stags are quite unsuitable for the vehicle. I've been advised to obtain the special clutch from Paddocks. Looks like this is my next step unless I go for the Jag. 4 speed auto conversion.
Robert

[Danny]

Hi, I have an automatic and on occasions also get a whining, but from the passenger side when travelling at speed - this has now been traced to my wife.

[JesusofCool]

S'funny I thought it was just a beamer thing. Mine does the same. LOL.

[richardthestag]

Hi all,

Just acquired my first Stag a few weeks back from a dealer in Epping and I'm a recent recruit to SOC.
The car came with a huge folder of history including receipt for new clutch fitted quite recently but I'm having a few issues with the clutch.
When clutch pedal is depressed the clutch whines 8 times out of 10 and when the car is warmed up the 2nd and 3rd gears are more difficult to engage and the pedal is notchy, so much so that it is easy to stall the car because of it.
When the clutch is whining the gear lever feels like it is vibrating on something, too.
The car is a manual transmission.

The dealer is happy to finance the repairs but as I live 200 miles away it is easier for my mechanic to do the work in York, where I'm based.
The clutch is currently off the car and stripped down with no obvious faults apparent.
The release bearing seems to slide okay so just wondered whether anyone has had a similar problem?

Look forward to hearing from you.

cheers
Tony (Hoffers)

Hi Tony

Have a look at this thread from last year. I had similar notchy sticky clutch issues. lots of frustration from me but resolution is on p5 of the thread

http://www.stag.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?8563-F*****g-b*****d-Clutch/page5

still working really well. very light and controllable clutch feel. I fixed the vibration issues by replacing the gearbox cotton reel mounts and all those funny nylon washers and bits that hold the cross member to the car.

Apart from changing gear with the eiffel tower I love my manual o/d gearbox right now

[peterrc]

Hi Tony,If you are changing things I would recommend that you replace the bush in the centre of the flywheel. New gearbox to engine attachment bolts. Make sure the locating dowels are in place. To make life easier with the dowel bolt from LD Parts leave it in the freezer for a couple of days before fitting.
Peter, Cupar

[hoffers]

This forum is just amazing, what a helpful, friendly bunch you all are.
I'll be printing off all these replies and will hopefully get the problem solved.

Thanks again people.

Tony

[Rubce]

different types of nose extension.jpg

Hi Tony

Here is a photo which shows the difference between a standard and long nose bearing carrier. I strongly recommend you fit a long one if you can find one.

Good luck and welcome to the Forum

Bruce

[richardthestag]

Hi Tony,If you are changing things I would recommend that you replace the bush in the centre of the flywheel. New gearbox to engine attachment bolts. Make sure the locating dowels are in place. To make life easier with the dowel bolt from LD Parts leave it in the freezer for a couple of days before fitting.
Peter, Cupar

I was distracted by the whole locating dowel thing when I had the box on and off a couple of times. I could find no mention of them in any of the parts guides etc. I was then advised that there are 2 or 3 bolts that are "fatter" than the rest and are designed to locate the bell housing to engine correctly. and that they should be the first fitted else the rest of the job will not go right.

I located the bigger holes on the bell housing and found that a standard UNF bolt with 9/16th head was tight in these locating holes so went that way instead of dowels. The first time around I hadn't noticed but did find that I was forever loosening bolts already tightened to get the next bolt along to fit which was rather frustrating.

there are also bolts that are behind the n/s head and they are a right PITA. I found that letting the gearbox down I could get the bolt through but could not reach the nut but If I jacked the gearbox right up I could. After a lot of faffing I did it in the end

[confrench]

Hi Hoffers,pleasedto see another Stag in York.Clutch should be obtained from Paddocks with new shaft bushes.Drill & Tap a greaser into bottom of C/R bearing carrier,followed by drilling hole in bell housing to facillitate a grease gun.Line up carefully the box to the engine with the special bolt,good luck.All this happened to mine many years back,and since has been OK.The clutches Paddocks sell are the D/Bs.The binding on the bearing carrier is removed by greasing it with High temp.grease.

[flying farmer]

It is important to check the back of the bearing carrier for grooves where the clutch fork presses on it. This is a classic for a notchy clutch, and also puts a huge load on the fragile pin holding the fork to the cross shaft. If the bearing carrier is a good fit on the gearbox nose then it can be turned to a different position by drilling a new hole for the roll pin that stops the whole assembly rotating, so that the clutch fork presses on an unworn part of the bearing carrier