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you my have a point there
i bought the wire of ebay, ive just ordered new rollers and feed roller to see if it helps but i might try new wire
buy what you say about birds nest syndrome you must be talking about sip welder
dave
With my old Clark welder the wire got all tangled up in the feed mechanism because the rusty wire broke as it was going into the liner so the feed just kept going till no more wire would fit in or I let go the trigger! hey presto one birds nest! Not done that since buying NEW wire from Ebay seller. Used the old liner turned end to end. I always use the .8mm wire feed roller even for .6 wire. I also always use .8mm tips even with the .6mm wire. The gas is BOC Argosheild light. I have used CO2 in the past but went back to the Argon 5% for consistency.
The garage I have now helps a lot as it is properly damp proof inside.
With my old Clark welder the wire got all tangled up in the feed mechanism because the rusty wire broke as it was going into the liner so the feed just kept going till no more wire would fit in or I let go the trigger! hey presto one birds nest! Not done that since buying NEW wire from Ebay seller. Used the old liner turned end to end. I always use the .8mm wire feed roller even for .6 wire. I also always use .8mm tips even with the .6mm wire. The gas is BOC Argosheild light. I have used CO2 in the past but went back to the Argon 5% for consistency.
The garage I have now helps a lot as it is properly damp proof inside.
now your just rubbing it in as i have to work outside
Been there done that! Spitfire rebuild under a tarpaulin in the snow! Continental frame tent set up in a yard for a spray booth... even the anti bloom thinners couldnt stop the damp blooming the paint! Hard graft with the cut and polish!
I loved it but its one of those things I don't want to do again
Get similar with my old BOC badge engineered welder and would love to know the reason as never used to, all advice welcomed. Wire is new, new liner, feed rollers tightened down. It doesn't jumble up but ss soon as the wire end hits the metal and strikes the arc it sort of stops, melts the wire back to the tip which then welds to the tip. Straightening the tube as much as possible helps. If I run it without earth wire then wire hits the metal then jumbles up inside machine as I'd expect.
Get similar with my old BOC badge engineered welder and would love to know the reason as never used to, all advice welcomed. Wire is new, new liner, feed rollers tightened down. It doesn't jumble up but ss soon as the wire end hits the metal and strikes the arc it sort of stops, melts the wire back to the tip which then welds to the tip. Straightening the tube as much as possible helps. If I run it without earth wire then wire hits the metal then jumbles up inside machine as I'd expect.
Paul
paul
you could try tip dip its an anti-spatter paste it will help to stop the wire from sticking to the welding tip
Get similar with my old BOC badge engineered welder and would love to know the reason as never used to, all advice welcomed. Wire is new, new liner, feed rollers tightened down. It doesn't jumble up but ss soon as the wire end hits the metal and strikes the arc it sort of stops, melts the wire back to the tip which then welds to the tip. Straightening the tube as much as possible helps. If I run it without earth wire then wire hits the metal then jumbles up inside machine as I'd expect.
Paul
If you are getting bird nesting it could be either the brake on the spool is too lose or worn out. Especially with larger spools (5KG+) then the spool will keep rotating after the wire has stopped causing birds nesting. is it birds nesting on the spool side of the wire feed or the torch side?
However if you are getting the wire welding itself to the tip it does rather sound like the wire feed is far too slow, either because it needs turning up or maybe the speed controller is dodgy. Though if your feed rollers are very worn then it could be that they start to slip and once slipping the wire speed drops too low (or stops) and you get it burning back to the tip that way.
I'd try running the torch with the earth clamp disconnected and the side off the welder so you can see whats going on when the wire hits the metal. You might see the rollers slipping for example. (they should slip but only after you feel the torch being pushed backwards in your hand.)
Get similar with my old BOC badge engineered welder and would love to know the reason as never used to, all advice welcomed. Wire is new, new liner, feed rollers tightened down. It doesn't jumble up but ss soon as the wire end hits the metal and strikes the arc it sort of stops, melts the wire back to the tip which then welds to the tip. Straightening the tube as much as possible helps. If I run it without earth wire then wire hits the metal then jumbles up inside machine as I'd expect.
Paul
I don't know if its a good idea but thats one of the reasons I use the larger tips; .8mm with .6mm wire. I used to get the wire stuck to the tip a bit and changed to this setup by accident really. I had a few cheap reels of .8mm wire bought in a job lot off Ebay with .8mm tips, all Ok, and no complaint about any of the stuff I bought but when I ran out of .8mm wire and started to use .6mm wire I didnt change the tips at the same time because at that time I didnt have the cash so carried on with the .8 tips. the results were much better with the thinner wire and the consistency of welding improved. Once I discovered that the first roll of .6mm wire I bought was damp and had started to corrode I then took the wire off the welder and stored it in a cupboard until I moved to Barrow and had a proper garage.
I never changed back and I have not used a new tip for the whole of the welding work on the Stag. I did have to replace the shroud as it got damaged with me banging it on the floor to knock off the spatter. (caused by upside down welding and welding in places where the torch didnt really fit)
I nearly tried to suggest what Ian just did but got the typing muddled up in my fingers..... Ian's right.
Check that the rollers are not binding on each other (if they are worn they can touch each other before they "push" the wire)
The general principle would say that if you get the welding wire stuck to the tip,the amps are too high for the feed. The same thing if you get the weld running and you notice that you are waiting for the wire to feed into your weld puddle..... If you set it going too fast it, the wire, will bounce off your work and you will struggle to get the weld running or you will get a load of spatter.
Hope you get it all sorted.
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