195/70/14 HR Tyres

[Bob Heritage]

It seems more difficult to get branded tyres in 195/70/14 HR size now. There seem to be some budget ones available by I have found that Hankook still manufacture them called OptimoK145. I was quoted £57each fully inc. if it helps anybody.
Hankook are now fitted as original tyres to Audi,Chevrolet,Daihatsu, Ford,Hyundai,Kia, Mitsubishi,Renault,Smart,Ssangyong, Vauxhall,Volkswagon and Volvo.

[jleyton]

Here's a thread from a few months ago where we talked about tyre availability.

http://www.stag.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?13574-Tyres

Cheers

Julian

[Giles]

Falken have just launched these apparently - saw on Classic and sportscar Mags site - T rated but do we need H rated anyway?

http://www.falken-europe.com/?pid=8&reifen=15

[mike@thenook]

Giles,
See the other forums on this - T rated are normally for vans, not to be used on a Stag under any circumstances, the handling will be compromised along with all else.

Cheers,

[keeny]

Check the load index and speak to the manufacter as to the compatibilty of these tyres
Keeny

[Firept]

I was told last week that many manufacturers are cutting back on the range of tyres offered many are not showing stock or delivery dates for some versions apparently due to the high price of oil.
No Idea how true this is anyone else heard about this?

Paul.

[jleyton]

Giles,
See the other forums on this - T rated are normally for vans, not to be used on a Stag under any circumstances, the handling will be compromised along with all else.

Cheers,

Well that's what I thought as well, but if you look at this page on Michelin's own site it says that the 185/70 R14 88T is for "city cars, MPVs and saloon cars' . Ok, it doesn't say sports cars but it also doesn't say vans and many of today's saloon cars are as fast and heavy as the Stag: http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-energy-saver?fromTyreSelector=true&width=185&selectorMode =bySize&ratio=70&radial=14&load=88&speed=t&dimensi onId=FW296-1

Now I'm confused !

Cheers

Julian

[Bob Heritage]

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that 'H' rated is the manufacturers recommendation. In case of an insurance claim why give them an excuse not to pay?

[Paul Goldsmith]

We've been running on Toyo tyres at 195x70 R14 for the past 6 years, at the time the difference to the ancient mix of Michelin & Federal mix was remarkable. !

Would definitely consider Toyo's again for our Stag when they need replacing

BTW : BlackCircles currently have Toyo's TEO Plus TYTE +A in 195x70 R14 H91 listed at £59.45 fully fitted (or just £46.25 delivered)

[Giles]

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that 'H' rated is the manufacturers recommendation. In case of an insurance claim why give them an excuse not to pay?

this is what I thought but read recently that this is not the case and you are ok. I think I will just join the ranks of the confused!! With regard to ratings Falken seem to be aiming these at the car market!??? Even more confused!

[mike@thenook]

Well that's what I thought as well, but if you look at this page on Michelin's own site it says that the 185/70 R14 88T is for "city cars, MPVs and saloon cars' . Ok, it doesn't say sports cars but it also doesn't say vans and many of today's saloon cars are as fast and heavy as the Stag: http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-energy-saver?fromTyreSelector=true&width=185&selectorMode =bySize&ratio=70&radial=14&load=88&speed=t&dimensi onId=FW296-1

Now I'm confused !

Cheers

Julian

Now that has confused me too BUT I would still stick to 195/70HR with no less than an H rating as they are the best compromise on size (roling circumference and width) to original fitment and they have the correct speed/load rating which will not cause an argument in the event of a claim.

Cheers,

[Princejohny]

Giles, just picked up two of these in 185/80 R14 91T
Falken Sincera SN-807
Apparently easy to get hold of if you contact the Falken rep.[
Johny
QUOTE=Giles;159004]Falken have just launched these apparently - saw on Classic and sportscar Mags site - T rated but do we need H rated anyway?

http://www.falken-europe.com/?pid=8&reifen=15[/QUOTE]

[milothedog]

Now that has confused me too BUT I would still stick to 195/70HR with no less than an H rating as they are the best compromise on size (roling circumference and width) to original fitment and they have the correct speed/load rating which will not cause an argument in the event of a claim.

Cheers,

You can find out everything there is to know and understand about Tyre's & Wheels on this site. this page is the size calculator one.http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_size_calculators.html

Ian.

[73stagman]

Giles,
See the other forums on this - T rated are normally for vans, not to be used on a Stag under any circumstances, the handling will be compromised along with all else.

Cheers,

The "T" or "H" rating is purely a speed rating of the tyre. Manufacturers have to use / recommend a Tyre that will suit the vehicle in ALL countries in which it's design was type approved. As the Stag was type approved for European market as well as the US the tyres have to be able to cope with the cars maximum POSSIBLE speed. Probably to prevent claims against the car manufacturer for using tyres not capable of this. (The Stag has a theoretical top speed of 144 MPH
and so would have to have "H" rated tyres to fill the premise that the theoretical maximum is also possible.)
In reality a "T" rated tyre rated at 118mph is "adequate" for normal use in the UK as that is above the legal national road limit and so the vehicle's speed "should" not exceed the tyre rating.
If Van tyres are used then that would upset the handling but it possible to buy tyres of the right size that are also "T" rated to suit passenger car applications.
Do a tyre search on etyres.com there are a few listed both in "T" and "H" rated including Michelin #Goodyear and Falken. Kumho are listed as an "H" rated tyre.

[jleyton]

Hi Ian,

What a brilliant website ! I'd not heard of that one before.

However, it does add to my confusion on the tyre front . It seems like 195 70 R14 is widely used by others on the forum however the originals were 185 or 175. According to that site, using the 195s will give either a 2.28% or 4.16% speedo error, so why do people keep recommending the 195s - is it just a case of availability?

Cheers

Julian