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    #16
    This is most definaltely some sort of scam. Where to these guys get their ideas from.... "Since I presume you are not familiar with Ebay purchase program"

    What a cheek

    FWIW:
    Ebay does not get involved in the financial part of any sale. Paypal does that.
    Ebay just takes their cut from the final "selling" price. There is no way Ebay are going to hold cash (beacause they dont take any from the buyer!) whilst anybody decides if they like the car or not! Ebays rules are that if you agree to the sale, and the item is as described then the contract is binding. End of. You must pay up and the seller must "deliver on their part of the contract" (There are some exceptiions and I have been caught out by them once. If the seller does not accept payment for whatever reason they can refund your money and refuse to sell the goods) The onus is on the buyer to advise ebay if there is a problem then Ebay will open a "dispute" case (I believe this can take up to four or six weeks to be resolved) they will then attempt to get you your money back. If it is paid through Paypal then the money can be returned to the buyer before the seller gives the money back to PAYPAL under their buyer protection scheme (Paypal will pursue the seller for the money through the courts if necessary)

    In General:

    NEVER BUY A HIGH VALUE CAR WITHOUT LOOKING! Never use PAYPAL to buy high value goods.(multi thousand pounds I mean) You leave yourself open to getting ripped off.
    You are always advised to collect a used vehicle yourself (or get a known agent or friend to do it on your behalf but only after you have looked the vehicle over yourself) at the time of purchase because you and the seller are both required to sign the V5 Documents before ownership can be transferred and this gives you the chance to check over the documents and the car to check they all match. Never part with your cash or bankers draft until the documents, properly completed for DVLA, and the car keys are in your possession.

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      #17
      Originally posted by 73stagman View Post
      This is most definaltely some sort of scam. Where to these guys get their ideas from.... "Since I presume you are not familiar with Ebay purchase program"

      What a cheek

      FWIW:
      Ebay does not get involved in the financial part of any sale. Paypal does that.
      Ebay just takes their cut from the final "selling" price. There is no way Ebay are going to hold cash (beacause they dont take any from the buyer!) whilst anybody decides if they like the car or not! Ebays rules are that if you agree to the sale, and the item is as described then the contract is binding. End of. You must pay up and the seller must "deliver on their part of the contract" (There are some exceptiions and I have been caught out by them once. If the seller does not accept payment for whatever reason they can refund your money and refuse to sell the goods) The onus is on the buyer to advise ebay if there is a problem then Ebay will open a "dispute" case (I believe this can take up to four or six weeks to be resolved) they will then attempt to get you your money back. If it is paid through Paypal then the money can be returned to the buyer before the seller gives the money back to PAYPAL under their buyer protection scheme (Paypal will pursue the seller for the money through the courts if necessary)

      In General:

      NEVER BUY A HIGH VALUE CAR WITHOUT LOOKING! Never use PAYPAL to buy high value goods.(multi thousand pounds I mean) You leave yourself open to getting ripped off.
      You are always advised to collect a used vehicle yourself (or get a known agent or friend to do it on your behalf but only after you have looked the vehicle over yourself) at the time of purchase because you and the seller are both required to sign the V5 Documents before ownership can be transferred and this gives you the chance to check over the documents and the car to check they all match. Never part with your cash or bankers draft until the documents, properly completed for DVLA, and the car keys are in your possession.
      neil

      why would you not buy a car and pay by paypal ?

      dave

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        #18
        Unless you pay by paypal using your mobile internet device at the point of sale you aint necessarily going to able to pay and get your documents at the same time using Paypal. Even if you go and look first and are happy with the car, in the ebay auction, you have to wait till the end of the auction before you can pay. You then have no guarantee that the seller doesnt sell the car a few times before he gets found out. I certainly wouldnt send more than a few hundred via paypal as their buyer protection only protects to £500

        Collect the car yourself and pay Cash up front or bankers draft is the the safest way to go. Then its just down to your assessment of the car... buyer beware!

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          #19
          73stagman...you have a PM.

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            #20
            Just got this reply when posting on ebay's Answer forum

            Its quite appropriate and supports the scam theme!

            This seller's / scammer's understanding of Ebay rules

            1.Scammer finds some sucker to rob

            2.Sucker sends money to scammer
            3.Scammer books a holiday in the Bahamas
            4.Scammer does a runner
            5.Sucker wonders where the car is
            6.Sucker comes here and gets the bad news

            'nuff said

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              #21
              Thanks for explaining the details of the scam. I thought that this was the probable way it went but I don't sell on E-bay so I don't know the 'deal'. If they had waited a couple of months after the car had recently been offered, they may have got away with something but rather pushy expecting to pull the scam so soon after such a high profile car was offered and therefore on everyone's radar.

              As I said recently about insurance - 'Be careful out there everyone'.

              Peter
              '68, '69, '70, '71, '72 & '76 TV8 Stags '63 T2000, '69 2.5PI, '68 T1300TC LHD, '77 Spitfire

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