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    My first Stag. Recommissioning progress report

    Hi all,
    I thought I'd start a thread on the recommissioning of my Stag as I hope to do this on a (very) tight budget and it will hopefully provide some inspiration for others contemplating the same. I'm planning a rolling restoration with work being done as and when finances become available. The first stage will be to get the car roadworthy, hopefully in time for the good weather, if we get any this year

    I acquired my Mk1 Stag, DRS145L in November 2010, it had belonged to a friend of mine who died suddenly a few years ago and had been stored in his lock up. Unfortunately the garage roof had started to leak at some point in the last 5 years and a porous soft top meant that the car was sodden through. It was in good condition when it was laid up in 2003 due to a brake master cylinder failure and despite the damp storage, I'd say it's faired reasonably well.
    I moved it to my dry lock up where it has sat drying out for the last year, minus the rotten remains of the carpets, while I finished the restoration of my much loved Singer Chamois coupe. The Stag was moved down to the garage next to my flat in November 2011 so that recommissioning work could start in earnest! The first challenge was to get the engine running for the first time in 8 years. Plenty of oil down the bores revealed that it hadn't seized and a quick look with an Aldi's inspection camera showed the bores to be corrosion free. The oil & antifreeze were drained and the cooling system flushed fully before replenishing, along with fresh filters, spark plugs, diaphragms in the carbs and a solid state conversion kit for the rotted points in the fuel pump. I also had to strip & clean the ignition switch & with a new battery fitted it was eventually coaxed into life, smoky at first but soon settling down to that glorious V8 burble that I remember from driving the car almost a decade earlier! The icing on the cake was discovering that the clutch hadn't even seized on & it drove back into the garage under it's own power, brilliant. Here's a few pictures of my Stag as bought.

    In it's damp garage.jpgOn the way home.jpgfront floors.jpgEngine.jpgHood past it's best.jpg

    With stage one completed successfully, I turned my attention to the brakes & welding requirements. Seal kits were fitted to the brake master cylinder (I'll see how these do as the bores looked in excellent condition) rebuild kits to both front calipers and Goodrich flexi hoses bought for all four corners. I've cleaned up the front discs but these are quite pitted on the inner face so will be replaced in due course.I also replaced the seals on the clutch slave & master cylinders while I was at it. I managed to poke a hole next to the rear subframe mount so the rear brakes will be rebuilt once this has been repaired.

    Regards, Jim

    #2
    I spent New Years eve removing the rear suspension so that I can assess & carry out welding repairs to the rear subframe mounts. It all came apart much easier that I expected, the hardest part was separating the stainless steel exhaust without causing any damage! This achieved, the subframe bolts didn't put up too much of a fight and the rear suspension was soon lying under the car. I then attacked the subframe mounts with the twist knot wire brush in the grinder (one of my favourite tools ) and this revealed evidence of previous repairs & a few holes which weren't totally unexpected to be honest as this was where most of the water had been running out of the car. Here's what I uncovered.
    l h r subframe mount cleaned 1.jpgr h r subframe mount cleaned.jpg

    I'll need to investigate the patchwork quilt of previous repairs & I've got a bit of work to do but I'd rather sort this now prior to using the car on the road. I know my friend didn't have any welding carried out during his ownership so this was done pre 1999. Is there anything structure wise I should be watching out for in this area?
    What are the half moon shaped brakets either side of the subframe mounting holes for? I'm assuming some sort of locating lugs, are they surplus to requirements or will I need to refabricate them?

    I'd like to carry out some repairs on the back edge of the floor where I am currently supporting the car. With the suspension removed, where else can I safely support the car to do this? I wondered about the rear spring perches or the box section where the diff housing bolts on, would either of these be okay?

    Regards, Jim
    Last edited by mijfife; 1 January 2012, 22:38.

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      #3
      Well done Jim ,keep the progress posted.You may only have 1 reply but i'm sure there are may looking with interest.


      Cheers Steve

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        #4
        Hi Jim,

        Looks like a good project. Engine bay looks pretty tidy. I'm no expert but isn't that a MK2 dash in what I assume should be a MK1 car?

        I'll be following how you get on, I'm just embarking on my rolling resto so it wil be interesting to see what issues we find in common.

        Cheers

        Paul
        Paul - 3 projects, 1 breaker - garage built and housing 2 white Stags. One runs, one doesn't

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          #5
          Thanks for your words of encouragement Steve, I've rebuilt a number of imps over the years so I'm looking forward to the challenge of doing a car that I'm totally unfamiliar with. Here's a pic of my other pride & joy, my '67 Singer Chamois Coupe that I've fully restored & owned since 1998.

          Imp cmyru 2011 057.jpg
          It's encourging to know that there is so much knowledge available on here should I get stuck with anything, can't wait to take it for an MOT and start enjoying the Stag experience

          Paul, I know the previous owner fitted a hazard warning switch to the dash, I'm pretty sure it's the earlier instrumentation though. The seats are MK1 without headrests and the interior lights are the earlier style either side of the T bar. I'd say it's more MK1 than MK2, hense my query about a MK1.5. One of the books that came with the car was "original Triumph Stag" by James Taylor so I've been going by the info in that as to which bits are right & which are wrong!

          Regards, Jim

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            #6
            Hi Jim & happy new year.
            The looped brackets were discussed recently.
            They do not appear too have a post production use & it is claimed they were for production line slinging. (possibly temporary attachement for pipes?)

            The rust holes / repairs may not be pretty but repairable.

            As you are probably aware, the master cylinder repair kits are not always sucessful.

            Les Clarke sometimes offers resleeved ones quite reasonably on ebay.

            The new ones from Paddocks are very good value at the moment.

            Atb
            Julian
            Last edited by jbuckl; 2 January 2012, 00:55.

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              #7
              The rev counter is not a MK2 ,. it looks earlier than my dash

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                #8
                My mistake - still learning...

                On a different tack why is it that the window switches always sem to be the only ones that go that funny 'cloudy' way when the other switches seem to stay in reasonable condition?

                Cheers

                Paul
                Paul - 3 projects, 1 breaker - garage built and housing 2 white Stags. One runs, one doesn't

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Goldstar View Post
                  I'm no expert but isn't that a MK2 dash in what I assume should be a MK1 car?
                  Hi Jim

                  I'm not expert either, though getting better with time, but it looks like a set of Mk 1 dials in the dash,as they all have their needles ponting downwards and they have black bezels, - Mk 2 have them pointing upwards and have chrome bezels.

                  Cheers

                  Gord

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                    #10
                    Thanks Julian, I can just grind off the remains of the looped brackets then, I couldn't see that they served any purpose but thought I'd better check first.
                    From reading the book I mentioned earlier, the only MK2 traits my car has are things that have probably been changed, such as a single window soft top, the addition of a coach strip when it's been repainted and the aforemetioned hazard indicators which I know were retro fitted by my friend.

                    regards, Jim

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                      #11
                      I spent today in the garage & started cutting back to find good metal. Unfortunately most of the car is now on the garage floor as dust I thought it would get a lot worse in this area due to the water running out of this corner.

                      NSR subframe mount cut back 1.jpg

                      On the plus side, I had a look along the inner sill with the inspection camera and it looks pretty good past the rusty bit. Just a bit more cutting out & cleaning up and I'll be ready to let in some new metal. To think that this started as a screwdriver shaped hole next to the subframe mount It was damn cold out in the garage today, bbbrrrr off for a nice hot shower! More progress planned for next Sunday....

                      Regards, Jim

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                        #12
                        That lot looks like it will keep you entertained for a while, but at least with all the rotten metal cut out it will be a good repair. I hate finding plated over original metal, found three layers in places on my Stag, and its not even a bad one.
                        I always find it takes nearly as long to properly cut back to good metal, and prepare the area, as it does to actually weld in the new metal. Keep up the good work
                        Neil
                        Neil
                        TV8, efi, fast road cams and home built manifolds. 246bhp 220lbft torque

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                          #13
                          Hi Neil,
                          I did find a couple of plates over rust when strip that lot out. I just can't bring myself to do repairs that way, I like to know that it's done once & done right! You've summed up my day in one, it took hours to open up a "wee" hole I'm expecting a similar job on the other side as there are a few plates present there too.

                          Regards, Jim

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                            #14
                            A bit more progress on the rebuild of my ns suspension mount. I got most of the near side finished on Sunday and I'm quite pleased with the results so far, at least I know it's solid metal again and not perforated steel any more!
                            nsr subframe mount repaired.jpg
                            I've still a bit of work to do on the double skinned part where I'm supporting the car and the hole just infront of my repair to the inner sill but I'll need to move my support to gain access here. Is there any problem with using the freshly repaired subframe mount to support the car? My thoughts are that it should be more than up to the job.
                            Welding will have to take a back seat for a week or so while I remove the soft top in preperation for it going down to V MAD for recovering ( see my transport please in my other thread
                            More soon.... Jim

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                              #15
                              Hi jim,
                              enjoying the post so far and will follow it through.
                              Im in a similar position.Bought a stag thats been laid up since1982, hopefully it will finally arrive this week.
                              I'll be doing it on a budget. Thinking at the moment to get engine running, replace clutch brake and any other safety related items, maybe even a quick paint job and start using, then do a running resto, not after a show car!!

                              steve

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