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    Myneighbour’s elderly father (70’s – no offence intended to forum members of asimilar age!!) has a BMW 840Ci – 4.4 litre which is the joy of his life. It has non-standard alloys with run flattyres. He doesn’t use it much – about 7.5k miles per year and now really onlydrives when he has to.

    It used todrive as steady as a rock at any speed. A few months ago however, it began todevelop a problem vibration felt through the steering, but passengers also feelit. It starts at about 57mph and seems to disappear again at about 65mph. Thevibration has recently got much worse so now he dare not exceed 55mph.

    About ninemonths ago, he had the wheels refurbished at a cost of about £200. It wasa just a paint job with baking in an oven. The rear wheels are wider than thefronts so the wheels cannot be rotated. At the same time as the wheelrefurb job was done, he had new rear tyres fitted. The fronts have been onsince he got the car. A small area on one of these is very slightly flattened.He’s has pointed this out whenever the car has been worked upon and has beentold they’re good for another 5K to 10K miles and maybe more. He checks thetyre pressures weekly to keep them properly inflated.

    In October, when the vibrationbecame noticeable, he had the front wheels balance-checked. Theseemingly-expert guy who did the job showed him that when he leaned on along-handled torque wrench engaged in one of the front wheel nuts, the wheelmoved considerably. He said that this should not happen at all and heattributed the movement and the vibration to a failing bush in the steering.That suggestion seems to have been the best advice he's had thus far. However, that'bush' has not yet been identified.

    Later inOctober, he had his local garage carry out a so-called ‘service’ - an oilchange and so on - and an MOT. As when he bought the car, they found a brokencoil spring. As on the previous occasion, they again got the wrong spring forit and had to reorder it. The car has a ‘sporty’ suspension and the springs areonly about half the height of the standard ones. he discussed the vibrationproblem but they could not find any bush. They wondered if he’d misunderstood‘bush’ and asked if it could be the track rod ends. Anyway, although they saidthe old ones were okay, he insisted on having the track rod ends replaced. Thevibration was still unchanged so he took the car back to them. They confirmedthat the vibration is as he described it. They had the wheels balanced againand the alignment checked. This time they said that one of the wheels wasdifficult to balance. But the vibration remained exactly the same. Theysuggested that the wrong tyres might be on the wheels.

    I didsuggest to him that the wheels should perhaps be balanced on the car, though hefeels that as the symptoms have not changed through two wheel-balancingoperations, the fault must lie elsewhere.

    While I knowthis is not Stag-related, it would be great to benefit from all the knowledgeout there. This chap is 76 and rathertimid when going to garages, as he is not that technical and is fearful ofbeing fleeced. Anyone have anysuggestions of what might be causing this vibration?

    Cheers

    Gord


    #2
    This sounds to me like a sad tale of incompetence at the various outlets he has been to, and a sad indictment of some sectors of the motor industry.

    I would suggest that the clue is in paragraph 3 of your post: A small area on one of these is very slightly flattened. A flat spot caused by a long layup could cause these symptoms. Is there anywhere he can get hold of another wheel and tyre to fit temporarily to prove or disprove this thoery?

    Dave
    Dave
    1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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      #3
      Thanks, Dave. yes, I had suggested that to him also. I don't think it's that it is that easy for him. He's also in Glasgow - miles from me, so I can't help him to find one directly.

      Thanks for the suggestion, I'll pass it on.

      Apologies to all for the joined up words in my post above. The import from Word seems to have joined words together. Glad that Bill Gates doesn't build cars!

      Cheers

      Gord

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        #4
        The flatted tyre could be the issue but it sounds like the bushes in either the upper or lower control arms (wishbones). I really can't see how this can't be found by a competent garage but his best bet is to locate a BMW indy specialist - 10 mins spent on Google should find someone local.

        I have asked a friend who is into the 7 and 8 series for his thoughts and he agreed with the above, said that as the alloys are non-standard , do they have the correct bore or need hubcentric adaptors and suggested reading this.....http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/E31_Shimmy.htm as it covers a lot of possibles for a problem like this.

        Hope that helps.

        Ian
        Last edited by Guest; 2 January 2012, 19:48.

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          #5
          If they had trouble balancing one of the wheels it might be buckled snd would explain the vibration. I had a similar problem with one of the old Stag Alloys I had on mine.

          Rgds

          Dave
          http://www.stagwiki.com | http://parts.stagwiki.com (Under Development)

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            #6
            This might sound odd but have the engine mounts been checked? It's a not uncommon problem on these cars. The exhaust alignment and mountings have also been known to cause vibration through the vehicle. Just a thought.

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              #7
              Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll pass them on - there is a BMW Indy specialist in Glasgow and it seems to have a reasonable reputation, so will forward all of this on.

              Thanks again

              Gord

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