Now we can see the "payback" we get for our Foreign Aid policy

[Guest]

not really sure what you mean by interesting viewpoint and off topic.
indeed i would say what i say is actual fact and very much on topic......... free money.
if there is something not factual in what i say please point it out.

You do seem to have missed the point entirely, as the topic title is "Now we can see the "payback" we get for our Foreign Aid policy". From that the relevant words are Foreign, Aid and policy and were related to a current piece of news. This was, I thought, fairly clearly a specific matter and not the general topic of "free money".

When I said your point was an "interesting viewpoint", I was thinking of the very wide area of debate it could open up between people with very different viewpoints on royalty v republics. Interesting but off-topic. As far as I know the financial upkeep of our Sovereign doesn't derive from money we send to other countries.

If you think I am wrong, and that the money we allocate to foreign aid is somehow relevant to keeping the Royal Family then I will be interested to hear your reasoning.

[AlanD]

well fwiw, i have just watched or am watching question time, we have so many cutbacks in this country, i can understand why people are asking questions, if we don't question them they will carry on regardless, we need to ask and show that we care what happens to our taxes, it effects us all, and yes we are not happy about it.
i have just recieved my pay rise, i am grateful, but at 2.5%, half the rate of inflation, i see it as a pay cut.

sorry guys my little bit, it is just my opinion

[StagnJag]

Think yourself lucky! - I have had exactly 0% payrise for the last 4 years .

[dasadrew]

.... I was thinking of the very wide area of debate it could open up between people with very different viewpoints on royalty v republics......

Is this some kind of forewarning of the next thread you're going to start on a completely non-Stag/Car/Motoring subject designed to whip up emotions, xenophobia, politics and the rest?

Come on Ian, doesn't anything EVER go wrong with your Stag?

[Moraystag]

Thinking here about Africa and, and since Britain gave verything back as far as the African states are concerned, what a wonderfull job our coloured brothers have done.
They run their countrys on a foundation of corruption which starts at the top and works it's way down.
Money has been continually pumped into these areas, and they never seem to drag themselves out of the mess they are in.
Keep seeing requests coming up on the TV for £2 a month would really help some of these states to access decent water supplies and improve their agriculture etc etc etc.
But for how long and how much money do we pump into these places in aid and donations. Surely we need to concentrate on our own problems now.
I don't like to hear or see people starving and ill, however large amounts of aid given to these places, really never seems to kick start their infrastructure, because it seems, so much aid goes missing and can not be accounted for.
I think it's time we concentrated on our own problems first, and trim back on the amount of tax payers money that is wasted needlessly, as it really seems to be pointless waste at times.






[QUOTE=turbineman;170447]tut tut........... did England not nick a lot of stuff when the when the sun never set on its empire.
from Africa,asia ,europe,etc etc

[turbineman]

[QUOTE=piscean57;170499]You do seem to have missed the point entirely, as the topic title is "Now we can see the "payback" we get for our Foreign Aid policy". From that the relevant words are Foreign, Aid and policy and were related to a current piece of news. This was, I thought, fairly clearly a specific matter and not the general topic of "free money".

When I said your point was an "interesting viewpoint", I was thinking of the very wide area of debate it could open up between people with very different viewpoints on royalty v republics. Interesting but off-topic.

thanks for that but money is money and when is free it will be accepted (ask the royal family and all your banks)
surely giving taxpayers money to the richest people in the world is wrong.
i live in rep of ireland and we are paying an income levy on every euro we earn for german and french banks that lent to irish banks.
the germans told the our soverign goverment that we had to pay the private investors who gambled and lost (eg rothchids etc) 100% of there money back, how mad is that, and not let our bank go bust as german tax payers would have to save thier banks (domino effect)
uk gov gave free money in the billions to hsbs ,rbs,et etc, the banks and rich get socialism and the taxpayer gets capitalism.
so what is wrong with trying to help the poorest people in the world.
i have worked overseas(vos) and seen the most horrific poverty i mean horiffic.
these people need help rather more than royality and the rothchilds its a question of priorities and overseeing that the money
is admin correctly and not giving the richest people on the planet free money that is a fact,.. we really do this,.. mad or what.
or should we shut up and give to the rich,i can assure you if you seen real poverty in the flesh you would agree with my point of view.
money to the poor should only have one condtion attached that its admin correctly not for trade,airspace access or string attached.

[lukegrace]

what a load of rubbish all this is. lets get back to talking stags i say lol.

We should disone all and look after our own country

[lukegrace]

opps sorry disown

[Guest]

It's always a pleasure to read your appreciation of French abilities to further their country and make money, and never really work out whether you're jealous of that or just furious that Britain doesn't do things more like the French!!

gros bisous,

Drew

Thank you for the kisses I subscribe to the view that France is a lovely country - apart from the people. I do however admire the way they stick up for the interests of their country and only wish that nowadays we had politicians who wanted to do the same for us.

Is this some kind of forewarning of the next thread you're going to start on a completely non-Stag/Car/Motoring subject designed to whip up emotions, xenophobia, politics and the rest?

I think that's a topic I might avoid starting Drew, unless of course we get a government that starts to make noises about losing sovereignty and becoming a republic

Come on Ian, doesn't anything EVER go wrong with your Stag?

The MM is perfect in every way ..........except that is for my recent posts involving "numerous" oil leaks and areas of rust, dodgy points.......and so on! Have you missed those Drew?

so what is wrong with trying to help the poorest people in the world.

I am all for helping the worlds poor - assuming 100% of the money sent achieves that purpose which I doubt is the case. Saying that I would concentrate on my own country first each and every single time when it comes to spending the money collected from us in various taxes. The core point in the specific matter of this thread is that a country that can afford to spend £6b onwards - the figure differs depending on which report you read - on fighter aircraft (whilst having it's own space programme too don't forget) at the same time as allowing large parts of it's population to live in poverty DOESN'T need us to send it money to look after its poor. That is, I am afraid their job for which they clearly has the monies. I am thoroughly sick of the way our politicians live in their own priviledged bubble and use largesse with our money - I don't know if anyone saw Alan Duncan's performance on last nights Question Time, but it was a marvellous encapsulation of all that is wrong with 99% of those who get elected as MP's.