Even the Stag specialist are doing it now

[milothedog]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LES-CLARK-TRIUMPH-STAG-RUSTY-SHELL-MK1-K-WITH-CHASSIS-PLATE-/120988703030?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2b7d1936#ht_1887wt_1263

Ian

[Bob Heritage]

Didn't know they did Mk1 in pink

[stagmuffin]

know where i wont be spending dosh in the future ,what chance has anyone got .dont begrudge anyone trying to save a bit of tax its the potential for ringing and the loss to your average law abiding joe blogs as a result that peeees me offff

[73stagman]

reported it to ebay. just keep on doing it I will report to local police if its still there tomorrow

[DJT]

Not used this seller for a long time. Fed up with items being withdrawn at the last minute because they didn't reach what he wanted.

Reported this item, for what its worth.

[martin]

Bloody disgrace, he really should know better. Shan't buy off him again ! Martin.

[AlanD]

same here, he's lost another customer, another thing i have thought, i'm sure he bumps the price up too, with another ebay account bidding on his own items

[Goldstar]

Does anyone know Les well enough to call him and have a word about this? Might be a better way to approach it if he understands what the feeling is amongst a sizeable portion of his potential buying audience rather than us just venting our feelings here?

Just a thought

Paul

[jasper]

Same here wont be buying from him ever again , Not reported to fleabay as they just don't give a f.......
And thanks to Ian for pointing this out
John

[ChasR]

I hate to say it, but I doubt there are many specialists who don't do this sort of thing (no doubt they will call it 'business'). You could argue Frontline are doing this with their brand new MGB LE 50s (yup, every one it seems is on a 60s plate with free road tax despite every part in the car being brand new, and it housing a completely different engine and gearbox (new again) from this year's Mazda MX-5...).

[73stagman]

unfortunately it is this crap which gives the eurocrats good reason for wanting to impose their extremely tight description of historic vehicles

[73stagman]

I am going to see Les at the end of the month as I have recently bought some stuff off him. I will try to make sure he is aware of the law! Generaly though I dont buy much of him even though he is literaly across the bay (Morecambe) from here because he dose not play the rules right on ebay. He uses the loop holes that ebay have left in their policies in attempting to protect buyers and sellers alike! Sometimes the old exchange and mart was more honest... an advert was written submitted and paid for and inserted in the magazine. Then you sat back and waited until you either sold your stuff or you didnt!

[milothedog]

I see it's listed as ended now, did he see the error of his ways, did e bay intervene or did he sell it !!!

Ian

[AlanD]

or has been reading the forum? hope he has

[marcusclive]

Hi all,
just a point of interest really, this could be a bit like triggers dads broom really.
At what point is a car the car, my stag when i first got it had the wrong engine for the log book, this i got changed. now i have just re built the body with new inner and outer sills, floor pans front and rear both sides, new inner and outer wings, front and rear valences, the bonnet and boot are both replacements. most of the running gear is new or replaced second hand.
a friend of mine has a 1971 spitfire and this has a moss racing body, it also has just had the engine changed to a 4.1 straight six, because of this the chassis has be changed for a new one. All of the running gear will be changed to accommadate the new engine so is this still a 1971 spitfire or not.
This vehicle being sold is basically just a log book but legally if i bought this, i could build a totally new body using new and second hand parts using the vin plate as the starting point, have i saved an old vehicle from oblivion or not.
At what point does the vehicle cease to exist?
Marcus