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    Hello

    I was able to get the heads off the Stag
    without any issues (miracle!!). Now I am
    looking at the bores and well the are rusty
    They must have sat with some water in them

    The are going to have to be overbored. Does
    anyone have any thoughts on how far over to go?

    Is it better to go .020 or .040.

    Thanks
    Joe

    #2
    Go for the smallest bore first to give your block more life - your machine shop will advise...

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      #3
      If you have a bore that is seriously rusted it is possible to get liners fitted. I had a block with seven good +20 bores and 8 good pistons and it worked out cheaper to liner the one bore than a full rebore and new pistons
      Neil
      Neil
      TV8, efi, fast road cams and home built manifolds. 246bhp 220lbft torque

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        #4
        Originally posted by flying farmer View Post
        If you have a bore that is seriously rusted it is possible to get liners fitted. I had a block with seven good +20 bores and 8 good pistons and it worked out cheaper to liner the one bore than a full rebore and new pistons
        Neil
        Unfortunately I have at least three cylinders that are fairly
        rusty. I can't see all the cylinders since I have not disassembled
        the bottom end. I was going to get the rebuild kit from Rimmers
        but I haven't decided on the over size just yet

        Thanks
        Joe

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          #5
          Get your machinist to assess the minimum overbore that will clean all cylinders up, then buy your parts to suit.
          Header tanks - you can't beat a bit of bling.

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            #6
            I was going to go down the rebore route until I found out that the aftermarket pistons are not the original domed type as I had in my engine. Ended up relining 8 bores and re-using the original pistons with new rings. Domed pistons aren't available in oversizes (anymore). Liners are readily available.
            The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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              #7
              Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
              I was going to go down the rebore route until I found out that the aftermarket pistons are not the original domed type as I had in my engine. Ended up relining 8 bores and re-using the original pistons with new rings. Domed pistons aren't available in oversizes (anymore). Liners are readily available.
              What is the issue with not having domed pistons?
              I noticed the top of the existing pistons are concave.

              Are the aftermarket pistons flat on top?
              Does it make a difference?

              Thanks
              Joe

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                #8
                Originally posted by joei24 View Post
                What is the issue with not having domed pistons?
                I noticed the top of the existing pistons are concave.

                Are the aftermarket pistons flat on top?
                Does it make a difference?

                Thanks
                Joe
                Are the aftermarket pistons flat on top? Yes. Well, some say "dished" as opposed to domed.

                Does it make a difference? Yes. See Neil's post #36 in this thread
                http://www.stag.org.uk/forum/showthr...ed-some-advice


                4 types of pistons originally fitted:

                155473 Mk1 -flat/dished (replacement type from e.g. Rimmers)
                160010 Mk2 -domed
                157894 Mk1 USA
                159792 Mk2 USA
                The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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                  #9
                  Joe
                  Sounds like you've got USA spec engine - lower compression. Mine was like that - it's a 72 Federal Car . Sorry about the blurry picture. Second picture has new County flat top pistons.
                  Nick
                  Piston.jpgflat top.jpg
                  Last edited by Westfaling; 27 November 2012, 08:57.
                  Nick
                  72 Federal Stag. TV8, RHD & MOD Conversions.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Westfaling View Post
                    Joe
                    Sounds like you've got USA spec engine - lower compression. Mine was like that - it's a 72 Federal Car . Sorry about the blurry picture. Second picture has new County flat top pistons.
                    Nick
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                    Hi Nick

                    I have a 73 us spec
                    I have pistons like the one in your first photo

                    My bores are quite rough and I won't really know
                    The damage until I have everything apart

                    I may not even be able to get out the pistons without
                    destroying them.

                    I may have to go with new liners

                    Thanks
                    Joe

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                      #11
                      That's a good thread. Thanks!!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by joei24 View Post

                        I may not even be able to get out the pistons without destroying them
                        Fill the bores so they can soak in diesel or an acetone and ATF mix or Kroil if you're in the US before you go mechanical, I'm doing the same with a seized engine right now-diesel first.
                        Good luck

                        Paul
                        Paul - 3 projects, 1 breaker - garage built and housing 2 white Stags. One runs, one doesn't

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Goldstar View Post
                          Fill the bores so they can soak in diesel or an acetone and ATF mix or Kroil if you're in the US before you go mechanical, I'm doing the same with a seized engine right now-diesel first.
                          Good luck

                          Paul
                          I had them soaking in all kinds of products for weeks before I had the heads off

                          Once I have the engine out and on a stand, I will be able to take the crank out and
                          get underneath as well and can get some penetrating oil under the pistons. I may heat
                          the block (gently) and try freezing the pistons to see if that helps.

                          Gentle mechanical first til the patience runs out

                          Thanks
                          Joe

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                            #14
                            Good luck
                            Paul - 3 projects, 1 breaker - garage built and housing 2 white Stags. One runs, one doesn't

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