Inlet Manifold

[Wandering star]

Have had my lovely old car for two years and prior to that it had lay in the garage of the previous owner, for 10 years, who prior to laying up had the engine fully overhauled by a known (to me) shop in Essex. Have noticed water/oil in the 'V'. and having now got the time to stripe her down and already to remove the manifold except for the two short bolts on the nearside rear flange They refuse to come out. Have given them a good soaking with penitrating fluid and left them until tomorrow morning. However I have noted in the Manual that when refiting you should loosen off the nuts and bolts of a cylinder head. I can under stand the reason for doing so but is there something I am missing?
Do you have undo the exhaust to enable the head to move more easily for instant?

Also the Alternator has ceased to work and found there is no need to go under the car, as per the manual, it will come out easily through the top. It looks like a mk1 series but has no name on it. Have found a number of Mk1 bits whilst doing her up.

Have another problem but will leave it until next week!!
Any help would be gratefully received.
Mike

[jleyton]

You don't need to loosen any head or manifold fittings.

Sounds like your bolts have just seized - bear in mind it's a steel bolt into an alloy head. Try to use a six point spanner or socket to avoid rounding off the bolt head. You'll probably end up stripping the threads but it's lways good practice to helicoil all the bolt holes anyway when you refit the masnifold.

Good luck.

Cheers

Julian

[martin]

Hi Mike, I think most folk now, do not disturb the heads, there's really no need. What year is your car ? If it's a Mk1, there's a large black control box on the front of the O/S strut. Good luck with those bolts. Martin.

[milothedog]

You don't need to loosen any head or manifold fittings.

Sounds like your bolts have just seized - bear in mind it's a steel bolt into an alloy head. Try to use a six point spanner or socket to avoid rounding off the bolt head. You'll probably end up stripping the threads but it's lways good practice to helicoil all the bolt holes anyway when you refit the masnifold.

Good luck.

Cheers


Julian

Julian, your not on the Sherry again, are you Hic!

Ian

[jleyton]

Julian, your not on the Sherry again, are you Hic!

Ian

Sadly not - it's the bloody tablet. Computer, not medicine

Cheers

Jollyone.

[Wandering star]

Thanks for your reply fellas, however can not reply with any degree of sensibilty as just got in from quize night at the local pub!
Mike

[Wandering star]

Have the manifold off with no damage but could you advise where to get an Impact Puller to get the water pump out ? Have had a look on web but not yet found a suitable one. Any ideas.
In answer to Martin's question she was first reg Oct 1973

Plus where do you find the drain hole for in the 'V' for when the water Pump seals fail. Cannot find it and just got a new pair of specs! Thanks in advance Mike

[wilf]

It is really not a hole but a slot, look at the rear of the pump in the block valley casting.

[Westfaling]

Mike
If you can get the bolt loose on top of the pump impeller you can usually leaver behind this against the block to shift the pump. It has to come out with a twist to unmesh from the jack shaft unless you've got the timing chains off.
Nick

[Wandering star]

My thanks to you all for your advise. Now have everything in bits and busy cleaning bit. For your info both oil and water seals had failed. And found hole Wilf!

Best Regards to you all
Mike

[StagnJag]

You don't need to loosen any head or manifold fittings.

Sounds like your bolts have just seized - bear in mind it's a steel bolt into an alloy head. Try to use a six point spanner or socket to avoid rounding off the bolt head. You'll probably end up stripping the threads but it's lways good practice to helicoil all the bolt holes anyway when you refit the masnifold.

Good luck.

Cheers

Julian

Julian, your not on the Sherry again, are you Hic!

Ian

A Masnifold certainly sounds like it should exist, perhaps we should invent one and use it in discussions with people who say that the Stag engine is two dolomite engines welded together. Actually, perhaps a Masnifold is the mechanical connection between the two blocks??!!!

Anyone got any better ideas?

Dave

[jleyton]

Good idea Dave

Now, as we have two exhaust manifolds and one inlet manifold (or masnifold), does that mean that we have manifold manifolds on our Stags ?

Cheers

Julian

[Stagdad]

Mike
If you can get the bolt loose on top of the pump impeller you can usually leaver behind this against the block to shift the pump. It has to come out with a twist to unmesh from the jack shaft unless you've got the timing chains off.
Nick

Usually i intend to undo the bolt and use it to fix a slide hammer but as i turn the nut clockwise to undo it (Anti clock thread) the pump will wind itself out pushing aganst the jackshaft skew gear.This has happened in all but one removal.May be im lucky.

Cheers Steve

[Stagdad]

Good idea Dave

Now, as we have two exhaust manifolds and one inlet manifold (or masnifold), does that mean that we have manifold manifolds on our Stags ?

Cheers

Julian

You've got something Julian, but im not sure what it is

[DJT]

You've got something Julian, but im not sure what it is

And I'm not sure we want it either.................