water in the v again! GRR!

[blue 464]

Hi all, having just changed the inlet manifold gaskets to stop water in the v, have taken the car for 2 short trips and it stood for about a week, every thing was fine till i took it for a 50 mile round trip to Ray preston for him to check out a hole in the floor where the underseal had trapped water, this morning there is a large puddle under the engine of anti freeze, i am not a happy bunny! ihope bad luck doesn`t run in threes,
the gaskets were from peter at LD and i used blue hylomar, I am wondering if the pump is leaking but there is so much water in the v i cannot tell. My solution at the moment is to slam the garage door and walk away! rant over!

Derek

[staginhiding]

Very frustrating Derek,its not always easy to see if its the pump or the gaskets.
Walk away and go back to it when the sun is out..you will feel more inclined to do it then.

Try mopping it all up in the V and see if you can shine a light in front of the pump.
If you can pressurise the system slowly you might just see a trickle first and see where its coming from..

[38rover]

I had the same a few weeks ago turned out to be a core plug in the head LH side under the carb temp plugged with plummers epoxy putty

[flying farmer]

I had the same a few weeks ago turned out to be a core plug in the head LH side under the carb temp plugged with plummers epoxy putty

One of the non running engines I bought had the core plug on the bottom of the inlet manifold full of fibreglass, why they did that rather than replacing it god only knows!

[mike@thenook]

Hi all, having just changed the inlet manifold gaskets to stop water in the v, have taken the car for 2 short trips and it stood for about a week, every thing was fine till i took it for a 50 mile round trip to Ray preston for him to check out a hole in the floor where the underseal had trapped water, this morning there is a large puddle under the engine of anti freeze, i am not a happy bunny! ihope bad luck doesn`t run in threes,
the gaskets were from peter at LD and i used blue hylomar, I am wondering if the pump is leaking but there is so much water in the v i cannot tell. My solution at the moment is to slam the garage door and walk away! rant over!



Derek

I sympathise - If you look under my rant "steam" you'll see the problems I have had with the inlet manifold. The question I will ask is had your heads been skimmed at some point and if they had been was it a real struggle to get the inlet back on (line the bolt holes up)? In my case this was impossible and I have now found you can get thinner gaskets to make the thing fit in the V better..
Just a thought

Good luck and hope you get it fixed quickly (and don't if you can avoid it at all disturb the heads!)

Cheers

Mike

[Guest]

Had the same problem a few months ago.It turned out to be the water pump seal etc.I replaced the pump with a new kit etc. and then cut my own inlet manifold gaskets with thicker gasket paper,sealed them with Loctite mastergasket which is in the handy syringe.Have done over 800Kms<500miles) and not a drop of water or oil in the vee.
Anthony

[elvimto]

When I first got my car it had a small water leak in the vee area after a steep learning curve I ended up pulling the pump, when I did take it apart I was very surprised that the seal was holding at, all also found the bottom core plug in the manifold had to be bored to take the next size core plug due to a rather deep gouge in the bore I eventually ended up removing the heads and doing a top end rebuild among other items. Learned a thing or two including using thinner gaskets to fit the manifold back in very frustrating but when it was done I have not had any problems, good luck with what ever you find.

cheers Stuart

[mike@thenook]

It's interesting to see how the need for thicker/thinner manifold gaskets has come up here and surprising this doesn't seem to be so widely accepted as a sensible option as opposed to loosening a head;
I've got my thin ones from Paddocks' now so will fit soon and see where we go having now sheared the "easy-out" stud extractor in the head!
It will be a head off sometime but maybe not until a little later.......

[KOY 23]

Hello Mike.

If you are going down the route of putting it back together and tacking the bolt another day. I had a broken bolt last year and Russ gave me a great tip. He suggested getting the engine hot and immediately have go at loosening the studs. Don't drain the coolant or take the carbs off. Locked nuts and clenched buttocks and the bolts and studs all came out without seizing or shearing. May be worth buying some extra nuts and lock them on before you start. Thanks again Russ!!!

John.

[blue 464]

Hi all.thanks for the sympathy and advice, I have today pressurised the syatem with the compressor to 20LBs and watched a stream of water come from thr top hose connection to the thermostat housing, this despite a new hose and 2 new clips to try and stop that particular leak, i dried the V and repressurised it and it seems ok, so i started it, ran it upto temperature and will let it go cold overnight, fingers crossed!

Derek

[milothedog]

Hi all.thanks for the sympathy and advice, I have today pressurised the syatem with the compressor to 20LBs and watched a stream of water come from thr top hose connection to the thermostat housing, this despite a new hose and 2 new clips to try and stop that particular leak, i dried the V and repressurised it and it seems ok, so i started it, ran it upto temperature and will let it go cold overnight, fingers crossed!

Derek

Excellent result Derek

Ian

p.s. fancy going half's with me on a Lottery ticket

[mike@thenook]

Hello Mike.

If you are going down the route of putting it back together and tacking the bolt another day. I had a broken bolt last year and Russ gave me a great tip. He suggested getting the engine hot and immediately have go at loosening the studs. Don't drain the coolant or take the carbs off. Locked nuts and clenched buttocks and the bolts and studs all came out without seizing or shearing. May be worth buying some extra nuts and lock them on before you start. Thanks again Russ!!!

John.

Hello John,

Funny you should mention that but I did wonder myself while deep in thought (!) if that would be a way to tackle them - well done Russ!

[milothedog]

Also a useful technique for seized heater valves. worked for me, I was able to free it off without having to remove it.

Ian.

[Bob Heritage]

It's interesting to see how the need for thicker/thinner manifold gaskets has come up here and surprising this doesn't seem to be so widely accepted as a sensible option as opposed to loosening a head;
I've got my thin ones from Paddocks' now so will fit soon and see where we go having now sheared the "easy-out" stud extractor in the head!
It will be a head off sometime but maybe not until a little later.......

Mike, that head has to come off, why waste time and effort by postponeing it and your new gaskets will go in the bin too. Wish you luck.

Bob

[mike@thenook]

Cheers Bob,