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    helicoils and inserts

    Hi folks
    I'm just catching up Feb mag forum. Here is my experience trying to purchase a wurther time-sert insert.I needed to repair a damaged cylinder head stud bolt hole in my stag engine. The hole was damaged beyond a helicoil repair. I contacted the Kent Wurth branch. They told me I would need to set up an account before I could make a purchase. This requiered two referees and a personal vist by a company rep. This in spite of me telling them I was a private person (retired) who only wanted to make one purchase, could I make a personal visit and pay cash over the counter, No!! I did request an estimate of the cost of the insert I required. It would have to be sourced from the USA at a cost of £80.00p, plus the cost of tooling, shipping, vat? etc; I considered the costs to repair one stud hole to be unacceptable and called a halt to the proceedings.
    In the event a local small machine shop (aren't these people gems) made me a insert utilising a 16mil X 50mil mild steel setbolt. Cost £2.00p for the bolt and £20.00p for the machining. Insert fitted, head on, all studs, nuts and bolts multiple torqued to 55 foot pounds.

    Regarding fitting helicoils/inserts. Answer A3 in the Feb mag says it all.

    Since my experience trying to buy Wurth time-sert inserts last July I notice there are now a few suppliers on the web.


    Georgestag1

    #2
    Nicely done George, and yes, these small firms are usually a find, and need support from the likes of us. Martin.

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      #3
      Hi Martin
      Thank you for your interest in my screed. The local machine shop is a one man band. A fellow club member put me onto him. I'm jolly glad he did 'cos I was gettting very frustrated at the time. I did try to make an insert using a 16mil bolt set up in my "Clarke" bench drill but I couldn't get a concentric hole. It had to be a lathe job and I don't have one. During my working life I had access to all manner of metal working machinery so didn't see the need to have my own lathe. With the benefit of retrospective infallibility I should have bought a "myford" say 12" between centres lathe.

      Cheers Georgestag1

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        #4
        George.
        There are times when you look back on things you have done and think ....dam should have kept that for these sorts of small jobs. I had a small lathe given to me by my Uncle it was a bit of a "bit-ser" made from parts but did a job, I also had a BOC Autolynx MIG welder that was just incredible for control you could sign you name with it Oh and a Devilbiss JGA spray gun, filters and dryer but when we moved house last about 14 years ago I sold them all as I was not ever going back into car restoration sold the MGBGT at the same time.
        I have now gone out and bought most of them again and its surprising how much use they get. Just been modifying a bed support to stop a friends dad rolling out of bed he suffers from parkinson's. I did ask why he just did not give some Viagra each night.
        Trouble is now a lot of the small engineering firms that were around have closed and the new generation knows n'out about real engineering!

        Paul.

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          #5
          I statement I often hear " You can repair it" err yes

          Ian
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