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    I recently rebuilt my engine and made some modifications to the cooling system which I will share with you. I will post each part on different threads so that you can comment on each part. The background to this is that the needle has always been vertical on the gauge since I have owned the car (1982) until last year when it started to climb towards the 3/4 mark on occasions. I flushed it out, changed the thermostat and temp sender unit all to no avail so decided to investigate, the result is that it now reads just left of centre but I do not know which mods made the difference as they were all done at once.
    I started by putting a 74degree stat in, but that made no difference because as the engine got hotter it just meant that the stat opened earlier and the temp still rose to it's achieved level. One thing to bear in mind here is that whatever stat you put in will be the min that the engine will run at, so there is no point in putting a 88degree stat in and trying to get the temp lower than that on a hot day. I eventually settled for an 82 degree stat which will give me a bit of leeway.
    I then got the rad checked out and had a couple of tappings put in for elec fan thermo-switch and a spare. The rad people quoted me £30 for the 2 tappings but said that they had an improve mattrix that they can fit, I argued that it had to be a 4 row but the guy insisted that he had a 3 row of the same thickness with more tubes in, which I settled for in the end as we made a deal in so much that the cost was £129 plus V.A.T. for the new core and £30 for the tappings, on the promise that I could forward more work to him via the S.O.C. We ended up with a total cost of £109 plus V.A.T. and the tappings thrown in. He will honour this price to all S.O.C. members now. I'll finish this part with the rad pics

    Bob


    Old core
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    New Core
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      Modified Rad
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        looks good Bob who did the work, there is a well known rad place in tunbridge wells.

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          mad cyclist wrote:
          looks good Bob who did the work, there is a well known rad place in tunbridge wells.
          Brighton Radiators in Newhaven

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            I really think there should be a section on the home page of the website listing companys that we have had good service from, what do you think?

            rgds Nick

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              My Temp gauge was reading around 2/3. I replaced the voltage regulator and sorted out a few loose connections to the dials behind the dash a knock on effect is that the temp needle is now dead vertical - nothing to do with the cooling system at all!!

              Dave

              http://www.stagwiki.com | http://parts.stagwiki.com (Under Development)

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                StagnJag wrote:
                My Temp gauge was reading around 2/3. I replaced the voltage regulator and sorted out a few loose connections to the dials behind the dash a knock on effect is that the temp needle is now dead vertical - nothing to do with the cooling system at all!!

                Dave
                I think that is the case with many so-called 'overheating' Stags. Fitting a solid state voltage regulator seems to steady up the temp and fuel gauges quite a bit.

                Dave

                Dave
                1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                  Hi Bob

                  This is a really interesting thread and thank you for taking time to put it all together for us to discuss.

                  I have looked at your mods and have come to the conclusion that IMHO you have pointed out that the cooling system doesn't last forever and if serviced/replaced on a regular basis is more than adequate for the purpose it was design for.

                  Looking through the history for my car over the last 2 days it has had the coolant flushed and replaced every year without fail and has had one water pump rebuild kit2 years ago when afull rebuild of the engine was done (after 98K miles)and the heads skimmed which I presume was either done as a precaution or maybe because the pump failed I don'tknow.

                  My car 99.9% of the time runs with the temp needle just under halfway and apart from 2 weeks ago (28 degrees)for about a minute after a petrol stop has always done so. I flush the coolant every year and carry out the servicing as per the ROM that way nothing should go unnoticed and expand into a major failure.

                  Stuart


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                    Stu,

                    That confirms what has always been my belief. Regular use, coupled with regular maintenence, is the best policy. Until proven otherwise, I am convinced a lot of the problems were down to Summer-only use cars which covered little mileage and probably didn't have anti-freeze. Then when they did come out on warm days, they cooked.

                    Yes, the system is marginal, and not very well designed, but if maintained properly it works. Adding header tanks, plumbed in suitably, will help overcome the design problems of the pump and overflow bottle, but you still need regular flushing and quality coolant. And this goes for whichever fan option you have fitted.

                    Dave
                    Dave
                    1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                      Totally agree with Dave & Stuart the cars were made to be used.

                      I flush the system out every year fit new hoses, use mine daily and have no probs with overheating.

                      Paul.

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                        Bob Heritage wrote:
                        The rad people quoted me £30 for the 2 tappings but said that they had an improve mattrix that they can fit, I argued that it had to be a 4 row but the guy insisted that he had a 3 row of the same thickness with more tubes in, which I settled for in the end as we made a deal in so much that the cost was £129 plus V.A.T. for the new core and £30 for the tappings, on the promise that I could forward more work to him via the S.O.C. We ended up with a total cost of £109 plus V.A.T. and the tappings thrown in. He will honour this price to all S.O.C. members now. I'll finish this part with the rad pics

                        Bob

                        Bob - interested in what you got fitted. I took my 4 core to a local firm @ w/e, they said it was difficult to get 4 core and recommended an "S type" 3 core which would give same/better performance. His view was the old 4 core tubes were spaced at 12mm, the new at 8.4mm (all from memory so might be wrong on detail) which gave the same overall number of tubes.

                        He quoted around £160 for teh rad +couple of mods so your guy pretty good.

                        What are your thoughts on the 3 core? Are Supergill 3 core? Do the suppliers have 4 core? Although my rad is rough it would make sense to have a recore+fittings at same time.

                        Cheers

                        Paul

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                          Sheepdip wrote:



                          Bob - interested in what you got fitted. I took my 4 core to a local firm @ w/e, they said it was difficult to get 4 core and recommended an "S type" 3 core which would give same/better performance. His view was the old 4 core tubes were spaced at 12mm, the new at 8.4mm (all from memory so might be wrong on detail) which gave the same overall number of tubes.

                          He quoted around £160 for teh rad +couple of mods so your guy pretty good.

                          What are your thoughts on the 3 core? Are Supergill 3 core? Do the suppliers have 4 core? Although my rad is rough it would make sense to have a recore+fittings at same time.

                          Cheers

                          Paul
                          Hi Paul

                          I can't comment on the Supergil rad as I have never had any dealings with them. Why not print off this page and take it with you to the rad place and compare the pictures with what he has to offer, you might show him the price as well. All I can say is that with the mods I have done as listed here on 1,2&3 the system is behaving as I would like it to.

                          Bob

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                            Bob Heritage wrote
                            Brighton Radiators in Newhaven
                            Not wishing to "me too".. but I used to use these guys on a reasonably regular basis (I used to live in Newhaven) - they did Rover 800 and Spitfire radiators for me all too often.

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                              Thanks guys - It looks very good and reasonable and may be worth a trip down. I'll compare pictures to what I've got now in the car and the 4 core. My anxiety is purely because I currently have a 3 core installed (new core about 5 years ago) and it "appeares" to run hot. I also have a dubious 4 core which I want to overhaul but not go back to what I've currently got as a 3 core (if that makes sense)

                              Paul

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