Year of manufacture re road tax

[Nambo]

With the good news of the free road tax being extended a further year to include vehicles made in 1973, Iam wondering if maybe my 1974 registered Stag was sitting on the showroom floor for a while.

My old British bikes incorporate a code for the month and year in the frame number, can year of manufacture be worked out for the Stag or do I have to contact somebody in the club for a dating certificate?

[DJT]

Check out page 8 of the May SOC magazine..........

If your commission number is LD31152 or earlier you are in luck.

[dasadrew]

...can year of manufacture be worked out for the Stag or do I have to contact somebody in the club for a dating certificate?

Before you start dating any dodgy club members, a British Motor Industry Heritage Trust Certificate can be obtained which gives you the day of manufacture.

Drew

[Nambo]

Check out page 8 of the May SOC magazine..........

If your commission number is LD31152 or earlier you are in luck.

Oh well, maybe the Conservatives will still be in next year, my number starts LD33

[GDPR]

You are luckier than me Pete, mine starts 43.....

[Dazza the Stag]

Ld31561.…… doh !

At least if they move it again I must be in luck.

Darren

[Stagsongas]

LD 32521.

No surprises there, apart from me not being singled out to have to pay double, like I do with insurance.

Still, I get a massive tax break on my fuel

Regards

Steve

https://www.go-lpg.co.uk

[Jeff]

Just received a tax reminder for my daily (not the help) and notice it says cars manufactured or registered before 1960 will not require an mot.

[Dave Worrall]

Hi Jeff,

I have a friend who has a 1957 Wolseley 1500 and you are correct, as he no longer requires an MoT for his car. That seems a little scary as some of these old cars are death traps that can't pass an MoT, let alone now making them exempt!!

Dave.

[DJT]

Hi Jeff,

I have a friend who has a 1957 Wolseley 1500 and you are correct, as he no longer requires an MoT for his car. That seems a little scary as some of these old cars are death traps that can't pass an MoT, let alone now making them exempt!!

Dave.

I was checking some of the classic insurer's websites recently and at least one stated in their conditions that pre-1960 cars must have an MOT to be considered for their cover. I think (hope) that this will be included in most classic policies eventually.

[Jeff]

I was checking some of the classic insurer's websites recently and at least one stated in their conditions that pre-1960 cars must have an MOT to be considered for their cover. I think (hope) that this will be included in most classic policies eventually.

Annoying that it states manufactured or registered unlike the tax exemption at the moment.

[Paul Goldsmith]

I'm just not seeing the justification for no MOT requirement for pre-1960, seems to have too many downsides !

I'm not clear whether there's anything preventing an owner of an MOT exempt car opting to submit to a test for 'piece of mind'.

In such cases, if there was any failure point would the car still be allowed back on the road ? I would imagine not should there be an unroadworthy aspect to the fail but as for other type of fail ???

[Goldstar]

I agree Paul. I understand that some insurers are insisting that the cars still have a valid MOT which makes sense to me. I guess if you submit your car for a test and it fails then that fail would be logged on the DVLA (or whatever they are called now) database and your car would be considered not road legal.

[Stagsongas]

I'm just not seeing the justification for no MOT requirement for pre-1960, seems to have too many downsides !

I'm not clear whether there's anything preventing an owner of an MOT exempt car opting to submit to a test for 'piece of mind'.

In such cases, if there was any failure point would the car still be allowed back on the road ? I would imagine not should there be an unroadworthy aspect to the fail but as for other type of fail ???

For years, the people who are now VOSA have rammed their message home, statutory testing makes cars much safer if they are tested every year. I agree with that view. If you look at how the general public (not enthusiasts of course) misuse, mistreat and neglect their cars, only doing or spending the bare minimum on them, heaven knows what the roads would be like if the entire UK fleet of cars were allowed to go without periodic checks.

Using that as a backdrop, how does it make sense to allow pre-1960 cars to go without any checks? It's only matter of time before some smart Lawyer defending someone with loads of cash but no MOT on his Bentley Coupe will demonstrate, probably successfully, that because of this measure, the entire MOT system is unfair, not evenly applied and therefore invalid.

And do you know what? He'll actually be right. Law should be evenly applied.

Regards

Steve

[jbuckl]

With the good news of the free road tax being extended a further year to include vehicles made in 1973, Iam wondering if maybe my 1974 registered Stag was sitting on the showroom floor for a while.

My old British bikes incorporate a code for the month and year in the frame number, can year of manufacture be worked out for the Stag or do I have to contact somebody in the club for a dating certificate?

LD31152 is official,
The info here is good:-

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/content--name-Triumph-Stag-Vehicle-Information

inho & fwiw i wouldnt bother with the bmiht certificate unless your vehicle was registered early (first week) january 1974.

bmiht do not have a complete record for stags now anyway.

On the .gov site which is now out of date for the impending change, it says registered on or before 7th january 1973 (for the old exempt 1972 cut-off) when it is updated im guessing it will have a similar 'first week of jan '74' statement, so your v5 should do the trick or the rimmer bros info taken from james taylors book.