Top 10 Survivors

[aerosilver]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/10059925/Top-10-classic-car-survivors-in-pictures.html#?frame=2563644

Straight in at Number 2.

I wonder if the Lotus's and Scimitar survived so well because they weren't made of steel!

Bob
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[Andrew S]

Thats really interesting and no wonder TR5's are so expensive

[Stocky]

It is unclear if the list relates to total production or home market cars. I bet the TR6, for example, would be high on this list, if it showed UK registered cars only, and if the TR250 is included with the TR5 the rate might be different.
The % really only make sense if you know the total numbers involved. 20% could be one survivor out of five made or 20000 out of 100000.

[davidf]

The figures don't match - here are the Stags "statistics" on HonestJohn

Triumph Stag
1970-1977
25,877 built, 3321 taxed, 3145 SORN'd, survival rate - 25.0%

I think 25,877 was (about) the total production.
According to Rimmers figures, Home Market production 17,819; Export 8,120; Total 25,939. Interesting that there are about 60 Stags missing from some-ones figures!
So, HonestJohn is comparing UK survivals with total production; not a statisitic at all. As Stocky says, we really need to see either UK survivors vs UK registrations (36.3%, which still just leaves us 2nd), or include overseas survivors, although I guess that number would be almost impossible to get hold of.

Quite intrigued that almost half the current UK Stags are SORN - GET USING THEM, FOLKS!!!!!

[Dave Worrall]

There are also the cars that are not on the road and not SORN like mine was for 20 years. It was taken off the road before SORN came into being and was not on any register apart from the DVLA as a log book.

Dave.

[Guest]

Fairly surprising but I guess Stockys got a good point. Have to say I am a huge TR5 fan which has always been fairly rare, but I see more of them about than the Daimler SP250.

Nice Magenta Stag in "our" picture - I thought for a few seconds it was mine but then saw the door mirror

[marshman]

There are also the cars that are not on the road and not SORN like mine was for 20 years. It was taken off the road before SORN came into being and was not on any register apart from the DVLA as a log book.

Dave.

I have one stag here like that - current V5 but not sorn'd and not on the road, I also know of another two less than 10 miles away.

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

Roger

[rac]

There are also the cars that are not on the road and not SORN like mine was for 20 years. It was taken off the road before SORN came into being and was not on any register apart from the DVLA as a log book.

Dave.

hmm likewise.

[StagnJag]

All interesting stuff. I wonder if any US Spec Triumph 250's are registered in the UK as TR5's bumping up the figure.

Either way - Two Triumphs in the top 10 and the Stag second. That 'aint bad!

Shame it's just missed the cut for next months Forum article! I will try and remember it for the following month.

Rgd

Dave

[StokeyStag]

All interesting stuff. I wonder if any US Spec Triumph 250's are registered in the UK as TR5's bumping up the figure.

Either way - Two Triumphs in the top 10 and the Stag second. That 'aint bad!

Shame it's just missed the cut for next months Forum article! I will try and remember it for the following month.

Rgd

Dave

Hey Dave, Let us know if you want someone to bookmark this thread so we can remind you when you forget what it was you were going to put in next month's article!! LOL

Mark

[davidf]

A bit of further research. For the last 5 years, we have had around 4500 to 4700 Licensed, and 2000 to 2500 SORN each summer, and in the winter, around 3500 Licensed and 3200 to 3500 SORN. So, about 1000 to 1200 Stags only Licensed for the summer each year. It makes a big difference as to which quarter the figures are extracted from.

[flying farmer]

My project stag is another not taxed or SORNed. I wouldn't be suprised if the low figures for the Astons is because a large number were exported
Neil

[andy p]

There are also the cars that are not on the road and not SORN like mine was for 20 years. It was taken off the road before SORN came into being and was not on any register apart from the DVLA as a log book.

Dave.

i was just about to say this, ive had and sold on a stag that is not even on the sorn data base its been off the road that long, so the amount or % is not quite right,