Rubbing

[virgin26]

Hello,

Question would fitting 195s at the front cure my problem of my wheel rubbing on the arch this only happen when I go over speed bumps or a dip it the road at speed and only on the drivers side. The front end has new shocks, springs, Topmounts
But still sits lower than the nearside weird that.

As you can see from the pictures it's only a matter of time before the arch cuts the tire off
These are the Faversham challenger wheels with 205s

[Stagdad]

Phil on here had the same issues whith his challenger wheels,there was a recent thread iirc he fitted spring spacers to lift it a bit but i think his were the rears rubbing,there must be an offset issue as i had 205's for a time on my image wheels and lowered springs with no rubbing.
Cheers Steve

[Phil]

Hi

When I bought my wheels they also had the 205 tyres on them, all four wheels rubbed the fronts caught on full lock as well. thanks to a very helpful garage behind where i work in Maidstone i was able to try a number of second hand tyres from their pile to see if they rubbed before buying a new set. I ended up with 195 tyres that do not touch at all at the front but i did still have problems with the rear offside. If you look at the second photo you can see the wheel isnt quite in the centre of the wheel arch, it catches at about the ten position if the wheel was a clock. Fitting a slightly higher spring and trimming the wheel arch has so far cured it apart from spirited driving on a bumpy road .

Phil


Triumph Stag New Wheels by philipmwsmith, on Flickr


Stag gets the Treatment by philipmwsmith, on Flickr

[virgin26]

my rears are fine I only get the rubbing on drivers side and it is an inch lower on that side plus with me sitting the car must make it worse
maybe i put a bag of cement on the passenger side to even things up

[Phil]

I would think 195s worth a try then

phil

[Stagdad]

Phil ,why are your rear wheels so far back in the archs? are all stags like this on a standard set up? ive not really taken much notice before but that looks odd.mine are a lot more centered.cant find a pic of mine before the bmw back end but this is it now




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Cheers Steve

[Phil]

Steve

its hard to say for certain but we think its a result of the rebuild years ago. We think it's the bodywork not the wheel that's wrong but like you only really noticed it trying to sort these wheels

Phil

[staginhiding]

Rather than change the tyre size you need to sort out why its sitting lower on one side.
Have you checked the springs to see if they are the same height..?
I would have said you need to sort that out first..

Sam

[virgin26]

Rather than change the tyre size you need to sort out why its sitting lower on one side.
Have you checked the springs to see if they are the same height..?
I would have said you need to sort that out first..

Sam

I have spent a fortune on the front end trying to get it level, there was at thread on here early in the year about it. as I said before every nut bolt spring and washer is new and the work was done by faversham and robsport but you must be right about the spring, maybe it's broken can this happen so soon after only 500 miles

[staginhiding]

Sadly spending a fortune doesn't always buy you quality...
I have never seen a broken Stag spring (plenty of moderns do) however you can easily check visually.
You can also do a rough measurement with all still assembled.
If the ride height is different from one side to the other then something somewhere is amiss..
Is it possible that one of the rear corners is riding high ?

If Faversham or Robsport did the work,they are both reputable companys and I am sure would have a look and give you an opinion at the very least..

Sam

[staginhiding]

Also by looking at where the wing is catching the tyre,I would say 195's wont make any difference..
Again in the pic the clearance looks good between the top of the tyre and the arch.
Could you possibly have wrongly rated springs that are allowing too much travel..
I have had that on the back before(from a main supplier) and the Stag sat down way too far under acceleration
Changed them and all was well again..

Sam

[Westfaling]

Assuming that nothing is broken you may be able to get the low side up to match the other side with a thick urethane spring mount. Monarch sell them.
Nick

[staginhiding]

That is possible Nick.Didnt you do both of your rears though.?
I think just doing one is not solving the problem..but just ignoring it..

[NickA]

Assuming that nothing is broken you may be able to get the low side up to match the other side with a thick urethane spring mount. Monarch sell them.
Nick

This is what I did with extra thick spring mounts from Robsport; I measured, swapped bits over, head scratched and still the drivers side rear arch was an inch lower than the near side. Seemed easier than taking an angle grinder to the springs which is what I believe they did in the factory.

I wonder if most Stags have a slightly lean to the off side, maybe it's the effect over the years of the weight of the fuel tank and driver

[Westfaling]

I'm not sure the cars, & springs were that good from the factory a lot of cars probably had slightly different ride height side to side. So I don't think the odd thick spacer is hiding more "correcting".
My car is still about 10mm high on the passengers side front and back, I'm thinking of leaving it at least until I next need to pull the suspension apart - as it kind of compensates for road camber.
Nick