Hi, I need to replacethe lumenition on my Stag.The lumenition has been good but are therenewer technology alternative products thatmembers can recommend? thanks spin.
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spin wrote:Most people go with Luminition - i have luminition, but if it gives up i'd probably replace with a Pertronix Ignitor (also branded as Aldon Ignitor) mainly because it is significantly cheaperHi, I need to replacethe lumenition on my Stag.The lumenition has been good but are therenewer technology alternative products thatmembers can recommend? thanks spin.
but it is also housed completly within the distributer cap. I have used the ignitor very sucessfully on other Triumphs.
There is a recent thread where someone was having dificulties getting their Ignitor to work and had reverted to poiints - not sure if they resolved things. I have always ordered from vintageperformance.com who has a very good helpline if you do have issues.
hope this helps...... cheers.....Andy
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Hi Spin/Andy,
It was me who was having trouble installing the ignitor. Oddly enough I have just tried to install it unsuccessfully for the second time about 1/2 an hour ago. :X.
Following other threads on the Forum the Ignitor seems pretty trouble free and straightforward to install so I think it is me that is at fault rather than the quality of the kit. I will update that thread shortly.
Regards
Dave
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I have the Pertronix Ignitor on my Stag and so far it has been very good. I bought it from Retro Rockets inn the USA via the internet. Fits very neatly.
Brian
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StagnJag wrote:Hi Dave,Hi Spin/Andy,
It was me who was having trouble installing the ignitor. Oddly enough I have just tried to install it unsuccessfully for the second time about 1/2 an hour ago. :X.
sorry to hear you are still having trouble - i just looked at your thread and notice that you found it was faulty - did you get it replaced by the supplier ? I don't think you said where you got it from, if you got it from vintageperformance/retro rockets (they are the same place) i'd suggest a quick email to retrorockets@snet.net . The helpline is actually UK based, Carl usually gets back to you very quickly - even if you didn't buy from them he will probably have a fault-finding checklist to share with you.
cheers.......Andy
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Pertronics is a very neat item as it is all in the distributor. It wont suffer from over heating as the lumenition module does and it cant be seen and is so easy to install, 2 wires
Good luck
Andrew
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Hi Andy R,
The 'faulty' diagnosis was mine and apparently incorrect. I did biy it from Retrorockets and I sent it back for testing on Carls suggestion. The verdict was that the unit is fine and it has been returned to me. I have emailled Carl back but as it is the weekend i am not expecting a reply until next week.
It is one of those jobs that should be pretty simple and I am currently venting my frustration on the forum with a cold beer in front of me.
Dave
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Dave, Beer sounds like a good choice
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The last couple i fitted (admittedly to 4-cylinder models) took 15 mins, and fired into lifew straight away, so it can't be anything too catastrophic.
I did just have one thought - in the packet there is a small strip of clear plastic - i didn't realise what it was for at first, but it is used to check that the sensor and the magnetic ring are the correct distance apart (you should be able to slide the strip between the two - but not wave it around ! ). Given your comment about a stronger magnet on the other thread it may be worth checking that the sensor is not too far away from the magnet - i think the adjustment will be where the sensor is mounted on the baseplate.
good luck.....cheers....Andy
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Hi Andy,
Some of the Ignitor setups have an adjustable gap in the same way points do, that is probably what the plastic strip is for. The Stag setup bolts to the points mounting holes and has no adjustment for gap.
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OK looks like I will get a pertronix ignitor unit. They are only US$117 plus postage so that is great value. I have not long had the Stag and the previous owner said he had cold starting problems. He had replaced the coil, fuel pump, overhauled the carbys twice, replaced fuel filters, dist cap, checked choke adjustment, etc but still no luck. He did not replacethe Luminition unitor the HTleads, so given the relatively low cost I will replace them.
Has anyone had a cold start problem that iselusive like this and no matter what gets replaced still wont start when cold? Spin
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spin wrote:Hi spinOK looks like I will get a pertronix ignitor unit. They are only US$117 plus postage so that is great value. I have not long had the Stag and the previous owner said he had cold starting problems. He had replaced the coil, fuel pump, overhauled the carbys twice, replaced fuel filters, dist cap, checked choke adjustment, etc but still no luck. He did not replacethe Luminition unitor the HTleads, so given the relatively low cost I will replace them.
Has anyone had a cold start problem that iselusive like this and no matter what gets replaced still wont start when cold? Spin
apparantly autos take a few 'ahem' spins before they fire up, got this info from an old se lonodon lag. are you auto or man,od?
i have had luminition on all my cars, they look and are as you say from the period, maybe some of the new stuff is just to clever?
rgds Nick
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Spin,
My Stag is fitted with a distributor from a 76 to 83 V8 Falcon or Fairlane, it has the Ford Bosch Electronic ignition module.
It's a bolt on fit, cheap and plentiful from the wreckers.It's also easier toobtain the rotor arm and distributor cap at places like Supercheap.
Give Greg Tunstall a call in Brisbane if you need help with this mod, he told me it's quite common.
My car had been converted when I bought it and he helped me out with part numbers etc.
regards,
Raoul
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OK thanks some ideas there. Yeah its an automatic but surely it should start before flattening the batteryI think there is something wrong intermittently cos sometimes it starts. I have threatened the car with a can of 'start ya *******' but even that wont work all the time.
I will look into the Falcon distributor. So what your saying is the whole distributor just bolts straight in? shaft length, diameter, and drive are all correct? sounds too good to be true but worth investigating Raoul. Who is Greg Tunstall? where does he work? Spin
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Spin,
Greg Tunstall is a Triumph specialist in Brissy his website and contact details are;
http://www.users.bigpond.com/gtmech/Home.htm
I've used him for the past 7 years, he has a wealth of knowledge and is happy to pass it on. His faithful assistant, Steve is very helpful also. Let him know I gave you therecommendationand give him my regards please.
As`far as I know it is a straight swap, as I said my car was already modified when I bought it. Put it this way I ordered an original dist cap and rotor arm and they wouldn't fit and had to go from there!
Hope this helps,
Raoul
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Raoul , I will email him. thanks SpinComment
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