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    Is there really such a thing as a Stag Mk 1.5?

    I see some members referring to their Stags as being a MK 1.5. Is there really such a thing and, if so, what sets it apart from a Mk 1.0?

    Ta.

    Steve

    #2
    They are normally referred to Mk 1.5 as they have a mixture of Mk 1 and Mk 2 parts due to the year they were built.

    I don't think there is an "Official Mk 1.5" Stag

    Cheers
    Darren
    Last edited by m9fdb; 3 July 2014, 12:42.

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      #3
      Originally posted by m9fdb View Post
      They are normally refereed to Mk 1.5 as they have a mixture of Mk 1 and Mk 2 parts due to the year they were built.
      Thanks Darren. Mine was registered in Feb 1972 and, although the engine etc has been rebuilt, as far as I am aware it is 100% original (apart from modern improvements such as Supergill rad and electronic ignition) even down to the Mk 1 steering wheel. So, given the registration date would mine be classed as a Mk 1 or Mk 1.5?

      Steve

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        #4
        There wasn't an "official" Mark 2 either.
        Ross. Perth WA.
        1976 TV8 BW65 Tahiti Blue

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          #5
          Steve,

          There was never any designation of Mk1, Mk1.5, or Mk2 from Triumph. All Stags were produced in 'Sanctions' corresponding to model year. Some explanation is available here:

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          Your Feb 72 reg Stag would be a Mk1. My first Stag was also registered in Feb 72 and was built in Dec 72 with the Commission Number LD10567. It had the Mk2 cooling system, but a Mk1 inlet manifold.

          So-called Mk1.5 Stags (like the one I have now) correspond roughly to the '3rd Sanction' cars, i.e. LD20001 to LD25432. They have Mk2 seats, clocks, glass, T-bar, steering wheel, badges, but Mk1 dashboard wood, doors and shell.
          Dave
          1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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            #6
            My Stag is in that number range and I'd agree with DJT about the fittings, except that I think I have Mk2 dash wood. Certainly, there's no map light in the glove box lid!

            Cheers,
            Mike.
            Mine since 1987. Finished a 20+ year rebuild in 2012. One of many Triumphs and a 1949 LandRover!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mike Stevens View Post
              My Stag is in that number range and I'd agree with DJT about the fittings, except that I think I have Mk2 dash wood. Certainly, there's no map light in the glove box lid!

              Cheers,
              Mike.
              You are right about the glove box lid, Mike. I forgot that and was referring to the instrument panel, which is Mk1 in that it has the brake warning light top centre, not a hazard switch. That's another Mk1.5 thing: no hazard lights as per Mk1.
              Dave
              1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                #8
                Yes, you are right - no hazard lights, although I have the bits to fit them.

                Cheers,
                Mike.
                Mine since 1987. Finished a 20+ year rebuild in 2012. One of many Triumphs and a 1949 LandRover!

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                  #9
                  My 1972 Stag has the map light on the glove box lid. I have the Mk1 Dash too. I prefer the dials on the Mk2. I'd like Hazards Fitted. This Car will surely Need them ! lol
                  Finally got Married on 27th June 2015.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DJT View Post
                    My first Stag was also registered in Feb 72 and was built in Dec 72
                    Spooky, must have hit 88mph coming off the production line!
                    Ross. Perth WA.
                    1976 TV8 BW65 Tahiti Blue

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                      #11
                      I also read that the gauge of metal used was changed.

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                        #12
                        I think even within the "sanctions" things changed a bit....there were some fairly major changes to the electrical system which don't just include the adding on of Hazards etc... The wiring to the Brake warning light seems to vary after my car. It is wired the same way as Crossys much earlier car thru the oil light but with newer later coloured wires then on slightly later cars it is wired thru the handbrake but I don't believe this change coincides exactly with a "Sanction" change.... just an "in sanction" up date!
                        I guess as long as everything works it don't matter how it does it!

                        Another change which we know about is the temperature warning light, I believe that change was done "in sanction" too. Just having changed a major section of Crossy's loom we couldn't work out where one of the wires was going.. a white with purple stripe. It appears in the old unwrapped section of loom down by the bulkhead on the engine side but wasn't connected to anything...as far as we could tell it never had been but we made a real nice job of connecting it in to the new multi plug inside the car. Then we were a wire short on the newer section of loom that connected to the other side of the new multi plug... the white purple! The older wiring diagram shows it as the temp warning light...Strangely we also found a black with green trace on one multi plug which does not have a function either? The original multi-plug had that on one side but nothing on the other not even a connector for it (From memory it has eight wires going in and only seven on the other side) and the plastic plug has a blank space where the connector would be..strange goings on!!
                        Last edited by 73stagman; 3 July 2014, 18:04.

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                          #13
                          Thanks all. From the responses I think mine fits in the Mk 1 category. It passed the MOT today with no advisories so hopefully it will be on the road for at least another year.
                          Steve

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stocky View Post
                            Spooky, must have hit 88mph coming off the production line!
                            Oops! You've no doubt spotted the obvious error. It was built Dec '71, not '72....
                            Dave
                            1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                              #15
                              Hi Steve,
                              The Stag I've got now was built in June 1972 and has all the mk1 traits as above,but the 1973 L redg,(WWY 777L)I had from 1995 -1999 was definitely a mixture so I believed to be an unofficial mk1.5.
                              I've just come through Hook tonight(if it's the Hook nr, Goole)my wife's been on a course in York and we live in Epworth,,do you go to the West Yorkshire Noggin and Natter at the De lacy club?
                              Regards Ken.

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