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    Repairing a Kienzle Clock


    I have a Kienzle clock from a 1976 Stag that does not work properly. This is surprising as it is the only part of a Stag, as far as I know, that is made in Germany!



    The clock is a late one as it has a plastic case, rather than a metal case; so what follows may not apply to the metal case ones.



    To take it apart, the bezel was eased open with a flat bladed screwdriver, trying to not do too much damage. Next, a small nut near the earth terminal was removed as this holds the movement in the case and males the earth connection. The movement was then pushed out through the front, pushing on the 12v terminal with a small pliers, and poking through the lamp hole against the facia. This was done alternately a mm at a time. Eventually it popped out.



    The three nuts that hold the movement together were then removed and the unit separated into three main parts. See photo.



    The facia and gears can be checked by turning the small gear at the back – the second hand should move easily.



    The balance wheel can be checked by spinning it by hand – it should go back and forth for up to 10 seconds. I oiled the two ends with some very thin oil as it seemed a good idea.



    The electronics are very simple and if they look OK, probably are. The coil looks very fragile, so be very careful with it.



    If all are OK, reassemble the facia and the balance wheel. Give the wheel a spin, the second hand should move for about 7 seconds. The two spacers go on next, the brass one and the plastic one, putting them in the right place, the plastic one goes near the 12v terminal. Reassemble the electronics onto the other two bits, being careful not to knock the coil out of alignment. The wheel should move freely, the same as before. Do not over tighten the three screws as it tends to cause the movement to bind.



    If you are happy it looks ok, then apply 12v to the 121v terminal spade (+ve) and 0v to the screw across from it. If all is well, the wheel will begin to move and build up until the hands begin to move. Let it run for a minute or two, and it should give off a loud tick.



    Now the hard bit. Put it back in the box, and hope it works. That is not as simple it sounds. It took me a dozen attempts until it actually worked assembled. Any misalignment causes it to not work.

    If this works you have a timepiece, if not you have a conversation piece.
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    This is the balance wheel
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      Probably more of these clocks don't work than do. If you get it running, trying to adjust to get the timing correct is a different matter.

      Well done for the article-Bob

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        Nice article.

        I had mine repaired professionally. Works and keeps perfect time.........but no matter how many times I set it to the correct time, it always loses 15 minutes then keeps perfect time, always 15 minutes behind the real time.

        Spooky but true.


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          Sam - mine keeps perfect time, but the spindle for winding it back or forward is on its last legs. How would you go about sorting that out?

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            The spindle is actually very simple/crude. It has a little slot at the end that engages with minute hand and winds it back or forward. There is a small coil spring to keep it out of the way of the hands. It is probably OK, but has a dreadfel feel. A touch of light oil may help, but I doubt it. A small grommet over the hole in the glass may help, but I would not think it worth the trouble.

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              What a great article, and pictures too- thanks

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                TimShoubridge wrote:
                Nice article.

                I had mine repaired professionally. Works and keeps perfect time.........but no matter how many times I set it to the correct time, it always loses 15 minutes then keeps perfect time, always 15 minutes behind the real time.

                Spooky but true.

                Have you tried setting it 15 minutes ahead of time. Then when it loses 15 minutes it will be right.

                Dave
                Dave
                1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                  DJT wrote:
                  TimShoubridge wrote:
                  Nice article.

                  I had mine repaired professionally. Works and keeps perfect time.........but no matter how many times I set it to the correct time, it always loses 15 minutes then keeps perfect time, always 15 minutes behind the real time.

                  Spooky but true.

                  Have you tried setting it 15 minutes ahead of time. Then when it loses 15 minutes it will be right.

                  Dave
                  Hi Dave,

                  You won't believe this but yes, I did, and it still read 15 minutes behind. I've tried everything and now given up. I now just treat it as part of stag ownership. I could replace it with something new but why bother, I just add 15 minutes to what it tells me or look at my watch.

                  Tim

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                    Tim - where did you send your clock to for the repair? I have a clock kicking around my garage somewhere that stopped at least 5 years ago but I don't think I want to 'have a go' myself.

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                      Robert,

                      Sent it to speedy cables, cost was about £40 IIRC. I could have bought a new one but something told me to keep what was there. They did a very good job and service was excellent.

                      Tim

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                        My clock does not work either, or rather the second hand moves but the others don't! I was going to have a new movement put into the casing when I get round to it.

                        Regards

                        brian
                        Drive a Stag every day... it's wonderful!

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                          The plastic case one was quite a late one I think, because I had one given to me as a birthday present in 1993 bought new from unipart.

                          The bezel is alloy so the 'shiney' rim is not chromed as per the original earlier ones.

                          It hasnt stopped working yet (oops)
                          There are 2 secrets to staying on top :- 1. Don't give everything away.
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