Stag with Ford V6 2.8 engine

[badenstag]

Hi,

A member of the German Club searches for contacts to other stag owners who have a stag with Ford V6 2.8 engine. I didn't know that such Stags exist. Are here members of the forum with such a Stag?

Regards
Gerd

[V Mad]

The usual Ford V6 fitted to the stag was the 3 litre 'Essex' engine. I havent seen one with the 2.8 'Cologne' engine, but I have used that engine myself on another classic. It has the advantages of light weight, compactness. In the UK most were fuel injection. I wonder if any stags in the Uk have this?

[new to this]

Gerd

i have a stag with ford v6,well to be honest just taken the engine out if your looking for parts for the conversion let me know

dave

[DJT]

The Ford V6 was a common conversion, commercially available, in the 80s. As Chris says, it was usually the 3-litre as this was readily available at the time.

[milothedog]

Funny really as it was another engine with it's own problems. You couldn't get them quite, the tappets sounded like a bag of nails sometimes. They were known for the oil pump drive to round off resulting in loss of oil pressure and the timing gears were made of a fibre material and used to break up and fall into the sump. On the later 2.3 and 2.8 they changed it to a metal wheel with fibre teeth, but they still broke up.

That said it wasn't an interference engine so when they did let go they didn't trash the valves.

Ian.

[milothedog]

The usual Ford V6 fitted to the stag was the 3 litre 'Essex' engine.

I havent seen one with the 2.8 'Cologne' engine,

but I have used that engine myself on another classic. It has the advantages of light weight, compactness. In the UK most were fuel injection. I wonder if any stags in the Uk have this?

There was a member with one fitted, something like "Cosworth Stag" IIRC

[stagwingnut]

A Coventry company called Hurley Engineering developed this conversion in the eightees , strangely enough there is still information on this conversion to be found on their website Google ( Hurley Engineering ) Coventry ! Regards Graham

[HersnotHis]

Why do some miss the point as underlined by VMad in the second post? The OP is in Germany where he is interested in the 2.8 litre "Cologne" Ford V6. This is is a totally different engine to the 3 litre "Essex" (Dagenham)Ford V6 engine.

With the odd exception as posted by MilotheDog, all UK conversions relate to the Essex model due to availability.

For many years Ford (Cologne) Germany and Ford (Dagenham,Essex) UK being at that time the powerhouses of Fords operations in Europe often went their own way.

Whilst discussing alternative engines I would for interest like to know if any other V8's other than the Rover have been installed in a Stag e.g. the 2.5 litre Daimler (Turner) V8?

[V Mad]

With the odd exception as posted by MilotheDog, all UK conversions relate to the Essex model due to availability.

The Cologne engine was also quite plentiful in the UK. It was used on the Capri, Granada and Sierras as well as some low vol cars like the TVR. But I cant really see why they were not fitted to the Stag.

[KOY 23]

Simple. People sticking in Ford engines wanted a cheap reliable fix, there were loads of Essex engines around from scrappers from the late 60's for peanuts. The Cologne engine was introduced here in the late 70's and hence would not be available cheaply for years and the RV8 was an established conversion.

[andy p]

don't think I have seen one with a 2.8 plenty with the 3,0, Ian don't worry the 2.8 also used to run dry the rockers with lack of oil making it sound like a bag of nails as I had a few 2.8 granadas and a capri

[new to this]

A Coventry company called Hurley Engineering developed this conversion in the eightees , strangely enough there is still information on this conversion to be found on their website Google ( Hurley Engineering ) Coventry ! Regards Graham

just been on the hurley website, the write up of the conversion is a good read

dave

[DJT]

just been on the hurley website, the write up of the conversion is a good read

dave

http://www.hurleyrotary.com/page.php?currentpageref=6271

The reasons for carrying out the change no longer exist. Any properly built and properly maintained TV8 doesn't overheat, unlike the poorly built ones that left the factory.

[pagan]

Unfortunately the 2.8litre Capri's etc weren't sold out here.
Even the Essex motors are pretty scarce.

But the Essex V6 was the same weight as the Ford 289 V8.. Yes, common out here was to use either the 289, even more so, the 302 and some with the 351 V8's.
Had a friend turn up, in a Capri, at a party we had years ago, with a 351 (not standard) in it...
Yes the Capri's mod's out here got a V8.... blame the Sth African's for the 289 in an early Capri..

There is a fair few 302's in Stags out here, or the Holden 308 (yuck).
Saw a far few when I was l0oking at buying.

The second V6 Capri I had stripped the fiber timing gear,, replaced it with the steel one with nylon teeth. problem solved.

Allan

Only problem with with V6 is, you loose the V8 burble.

[milothedog]

Here you are.

http://socforum.com/forum/showthread.php?11832-My-Stag-New-To-site&highlight=cosworth+stag