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    New on the forum - 73 Federal Stag currently on a ship in the ocean

    After some activity on the forum, maybe time to introduce myself.

    Since I got my drivers' license 33 years ago, I am a daily driver and lover of old British cars. When I was 16, I actually persuaded my father to buy a secondhand Triumph 2500 TC to replace the rusty Peugeot 404 Familiale. He did not take up the suggestion to buy a Jaguar Mk2 though!
    A number of cars followed - 1967 Mini, 71 2CV, 69 XJ S1, 69 Chamois, 69 Herald, 65 Oxford, 71 2000 Mk2, 71 Imp, 59 Minor, 63 TR4, 67 Westminster, 67 MGBGT, 61 Minx, 68 Interceptor, 51 Champ, 82 CX Pallas, 83 CX GTI, 84 CX GTI, 86 2600 VdP, 75 2500 PI, 67 Jag 420, 67 Chamois, 84 Range Rover 3 door, 66 2000 Mk1. Plus a couple of Subaru Legacy / Outback. Some of these I still have.
    My wife does not mind my illness for classic cars. Our last modern (2001 Outback 3 litre) was sold a month ago, we now have a 1989 BX GTI as a modern.

    Attached to our house is a big garage which I built myself 9 years ago. Three years ago some adjoining land could be bought so the garage was extended further.
    With a friend I began a business in my garage which had a main focus - converting classics to electric power steering. Later we also installed air conditioning and many other adaptions to classics. I sold my share to my friend, and now I have the garage for myself again which I do not mind at all!
    It has a lathe, welding equipment, a 4 poster lift and room for 7 or 8 cars if really needed - usually there are 5 cars. That is, until the Stag arrives!

    I have just bought a Stag in the USA, near New York. I had been looking for a Stag for years but could not find one to my linking: cheap, not too rusty, not too bad mechanically. Most Stags I saw needed too much welding for my liking. Most USA cars have a nice specification: Sundym glass, air conditioning and many have hardtops. They are pretty good with regards to the body but many have had engine transplants. Regrettably most of the cars are located in the middle of nowhere - and seeing that the USA is one big continent this means transporting them to a port was going to be too expensive.

    A month ago I saw a car advertised near New York. That is not a favorite area, cars can be very rusty there but this one seems to be good. A few pictures accompanied the ad, all showing the car being buried under parts and garage stuff. I think this put many prospective buyers away. Also, there was not much information in the ad and not much time left. So, with No Reserve, I put in a very low bid and waited..... and won! I am the owner of a VERY cheap car - the cheapest Stag I ever have seen apart from some dismantled cars.
    The seller have sent me much more information. A list of owners since new. Basically the car had just two owners who drove the car. Second owner sold it in 1995, and it has been stored ever since. The seller owned it since 2002.
    Originally Sienna brown, it has been dark green for a very long time - at least before 1995. Maybe the second owner had it resprayed. Recorded milage in 1995, and 2015 is 75.000.
    The chassis number - 22992 - and the Heritage Certificate which the seller got in 2004, point to a date of build as April 1973. This would mean a Mk2, which, as far as I see mentioned everywhere on the internet, would mean it would have an override as standard. But the picture of the inside does show a gear stick without the OD switch... Hmm maybe a special order? Or did not all Mk2 cars have OD? Or maybe the car got a transmission transplant? The Heritage certificate does not specify what transmission the car had when new, and there is no suffix to the chassis number.

    The seller has been picking some parts from the car and sold these: the dashboard wood, the air conditioning compressor, condensor and fans. He had installed a Holley carburettor, but had sold that as well a few months ago. He said the engine runs really well. The Strombergs are still with the car but dismantled. He had the rusty wire wheels replaced by the standard alloys - but had the alloys polished first. The radiator shroud is gone. He had the air cleaner housing advertised but luckily removed the ad and it is with the car now. He had the tank professionally cleaned by a firm (bills provided). He also sold the softtop including the frame. He bought a good hardtop for the car.
    Why all this? Why invest in a car (Heritage form, carb, wheels, tank, hardtop) and after some years take it apart? The ad did mention the car was for parts or restoration. I am sure that if the car was located Europe, no-one would think of it as a parts car, it is much too good for that.
    I have not had the guts to ask him the reasons, first I want to have the car safely on its way to me.... He did pack the car for transport carefully and was really helpful.

    Two pics of the car in 2002:
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    Three years ago:
    Stag LH Rear.jpg
    Stag RH Front.jpg

    From the ad:
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    More pics in the next post.
    A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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    Some more pics from the ad:

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    LV.jpg

    R2.jpg

    RV.jpg

    And a few days ago, ready for transportation:

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    --- more in the next post
    A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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      The car should arrive in a few weeks... cannot wait!

      cheers,
      Dion
      A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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        #4
        I takes a brave man to import a car like this! I did three Triumphs (2 x 2500 and a Stag) from Australia years ago and it was quite a strain on my nerves.

        I hope your car is really good when you get it, but please keep us posted! With photos!!
        Richard
        Mabel is a white 1972 Mk1½, TV8, Mo/d.

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          #5
          That fan is bigger than mine!
          I only do what the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do!

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            #6
            Hi Badhuis

            looks like you have a bit of work to do there,will you do the work yourself,are you going to keep it green or change the colour

            the gear stick looks a bit long for a stag one

            dave

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              #7
              Thanks for the comments. Having bought many cars unseen I am not too afraid, even if the car turns out to be a complete lemon, which I hope is unlikely, it will have its value by taking it apart.
              Of course if it would be an expensive car the gamble would be too big to buy unseen.
              My brother and me bought some cars unseen in the last 10 years and they all turned out to be honest, good cars: 1959 Rover 100 for 600 pounds, 1970 Triumph 2000 Mk2 for 900, 1953 Jaguar Mk VII for 3000 dollars.

              I will do most of the work myself. Maybe not the last coat of paint. I have no experience in upholstery, but the seats and head rests need new foam (if not more) so I will have a go at that.
              Just hoping the gear stick is just a strange one and there is still an overdrive underneath the car.....

              cheers
              Dion
              A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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                #8
                Hope it turns out to be a good one, I bought a New York TR6 from a dealer in the UK about 25 years ago, about as rough as it was possible to get but it was the cheapest one they had!

                Neil
                Neil
                TV8, efi, fast road cams and home built manifolds. 246bhp 220lbft torque

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                  #9
                  Not sure about the colour. Not too keen on a brown... I am seeing many different Sienna Brown cars on Google - looking for an original Sienna brown Stag. If it is a dark brown then maybe.
                  Tomorrow I will be visiting Peter924 which has a VERY nice dark green Mk1 Federal Stag. Could be an inspiration.
                  Years ago I had a 2000 Mk2, Laurel green with tan (real) leather which was a very good combination.
                  A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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                    #10
                    You are another inspiration Flying Farmer... your EFI engines.
                    A few years ago my friend and me installed a modern (1995ish) american V8 in a 1965 Mustang, threw away the engine computers and added an aftermarket EFI / programmable ignition. Also LPG injection.
                    I would like to do that again in the Stag.... but first priority is to have it running and registered here in Holland.
                    A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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                      #11
                      Hi Dion,

                      Nice to see more dutch people here. The car is an challenge but looks like an honest one. All the best restoring it.

                      Cheers,
                      Alex
                      Triumph stag, a way of living.

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                        #12
                        Badhuis
                        Welcome I bought a 1972 Federal car out of Washington DC and after media blasting the body shell I was pleasantly surprised by the comparative lack of rust. Mine's still got the original sills and (most of) the floor pans. Your photos look promising.
                        Nick
                        Nick
                        72 Federal Stag. TV8, RHD & MOD Conversions.

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                          #13
                          I think you will find that all '73 Fed cars are a Mk 1.5. A Mk 1 body and doors with Mk2 bits. Not all Fed. cars had the MoD option.
                          I'm just getting my Fed. car finished up. Lucky for me Robsport are 20 mins away....

                          Good luck.
                          Last edited by malc4d; 3 June 2015, 22:24.

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                            #14
                            At home

                            Well, the Stag arrived this week. Looking very good! I am pleasantly surprised, the PO has packed all parts carefully in the car.

                            Rust / Rot: The only rot to be found is in the bottom front wing corners, near the valance, the bottom radiator support panel to which the front valance is welded and a very small area around the RH front jacking point on the sill. Outriggers and rest of the floor are all good, a bit of surface rust only.

                            There is some transport damage The front lower grille panel is bent and has sheared. Presumably a rope or whatever was fed through the grille aperture for securing the car. I hope I can get some insurance money for this, have emailed the transporter.

                            Dash: to my surprise all wood is included. I must have understood wrong, the Po presumably had removed the dashboard because the wood is delaminating badly. This is especially so for the curved part around the instruments, and the piece which houses the ash tray. But he has found and included a better instrument panel, great news as this is very hard to find (LHD). I need to find a better ashtray surround panel, or make a new one. And then start a re-veneering session for all wood.

                            The car is almost complete, missing is:
                            - handbrake lever
                            - windscreen chrome
                            - badges front and rear
                            - carpet
                            - small things like rubber for the air filter to trumpet
                            Things I thought were missing are there, like the side chrome trims on the hardtop and dashboard wood.

                            Positive surprises: there are some new parts. Like a new chrome fuel filler assembly, brake pipes, brake master cylinder, new headlamp rings/bowls, new Koni shock absorbers fitted at the rear, new centre piece rear bumper, new rear chrome strip for the boot lid.
                            The very nice wheels are a good thing as well. There are two main grilles, one original to the car I think and a better one.
                            I knew the Strombergs were dismantled but all parts have been kept together and I was able to fit it all together today, nothing is missing.

                            Negatives: the transport damage, the seat bottoms cannot be saved I think. Too brittle (hardened) and especially the drivers seat has some big rips. The side foam of the seat back (both sides) has disintegrated completely - are these of a different type of foam? Rest of the seat foams is still quite firm but who knows what will come out of it when the seats are dismantled

                            Plans for now are to clean and re-assemble the carburetors, do the welding required. I have not looked but are repair panels available for these: the bottom radiator support panel (I think it is U shaped) and the front wing bottom corners.
                            Then I can flush the radiator and install that and then try to get the engine running. According to the PO it ran good, there is not much evidence to suggest otherwise. There's clean oil on the dipstick.
                            Would it be necessary to check the timing chains before I try the engine?

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                            A car stops being fun when it becomes an investment

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                              #15
                              That sound like a good car. Enjoy all the fixing and cleaning..lol. MoD was an option that not all took up in the States. Also looks like the A/c is in bits. Im trying to get mine repaired.

                              If you need a nice new carpet l have a new Aldridge LHD brown one that l didn't use. I bought another in Beige and used that instead.
                              Last edited by malc4d; 23 July 2015, 09:12.

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