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    #31
    Sorry to hear you have had a similar problem Drew, sounds as though its probably a different cause though. Can I just hijack back the thread and ask for some kind sole just to help me with my previous question, as I have now fixed back in place the rebuilt master cylinder and I want to ensuring that i understand the drain and top up process of the brake fluid before I start as brakes make me a little nervy ! The question was

    So just a follow up question, I bled sufficient brake fluid out of the cylinder in the rear circuit to change it ( the front circuit was already drained because of the leak. I did that on one on the rear wheels, just enough to empty the cylinder.

    Because I want to replace all of the fluid I was going to work my way around all 4 wheels and drain each wheel one by one, and then top up the reservoir and then bleed each one individually so that I know I have fresh fluid in the whole circuit. However I read that I should put the fresh fluid in the reservoir and then bleed each wheel and I should be able to see when the new fluid starts to come out of the bleed nipple and hence that is a sign that all of the old stuff has come out. Will both methods work ? Im nervous that I won't be able to see the difference in the fluid and therefore won't know when to stop bleeding !

    If I go down the route of the first option i.e. drain the whole system first do I still need to hold the pedal to the floor, tightened up the bleed nipple and then let go and repeat or can I just keep pumping the pedal until all of the brake fluid has gone ?

    Many thanks - I appreciate your help

    Dazza

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      #32
      Originally posted by Dazza the Stag View Post
      Sorry to hear you have had a similar problem Drew, sounds as though its probably a different cause though. Can I just hijack back the thread and ask for some kind sole just to help me with my previous question, as I have now fixed back in place the rebuilt master cylinder and I want to ensuring that i understand the drain and top up process of the brake fluid before I start as brakes make me a little nervy ! The question was

      So just a follow up question, I bled sufficient brake fluid out of the cylinder in the rear circuit to change it ( the front circuit was already drained because of the leak. I did that on one on the rear wheels, just enough to empty the cylinder.

      Because I want to replace all of the fluid I was going to work my way around all 4 wheels and drain each wheel one by one, and then top up the reservoir and then bleed each one individually so that I know I have fresh fluid in the whole circuit. However I read that I should put the fresh fluid in the reservoir and then bleed each wheel and I should be able to see when the new fluid starts to come out of the bleed nipple and hence that is a sign that all of the old stuff has come out. Will both methods work ? Im nervous that I won't be able to see the difference in the fluid and therefore won't know when to stop bleeding !

      If I go down the route of the first option i.e. drain the whole system first do I still need to hold the pedal to the floor, tightened up the bleed nipple and then let go and repeat or can I just keep pumping the pedal until all of the brake fluid has gone ?

      Many thanks - I appreciate your help

      Dazza
      I would drain the fluid until it's nearly empty, then bleed, half a dozen pumps should see new fluid coming through. If you decide to completely drain the system just pump away til it's empty.
      ZF 4 spd box, Datsun shafts, SS exhaust, 38DGMS weber 158.9bhp, BMW MC Tomcat seatssigpic

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        #33
        Originally posted by Andy Rundell View Post
        the car equivalent is to use a broom to jam on the footbrake braced against the drivers seat. I have only needed to do it a couple of times but it did the trick on both occasions

        ....... Andy
        Ohhhh FFS! Now I'll have to finish of the seats to be able to bleed the brakes... does it never end??
        The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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          #34
          Just a word of caution, if your Master Cylinder is old / of an unknown age it's not advisable to press the pedal fully to floor during the bleeding process. It's possible that parts of the internal bore may have slight areas of corrosion due to the piston not travelling that far down during normal operation and the hydroscopic nature of the fluid. If it does travel further than normal when bleeding out the system you run the risk of seal damage and subsequent premature failure/leakage.

          Ian.
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            #35
            Originally posted by KOY 23 View Post
            Hi Andy.
            Good to see you have another Triumph, any photos ?
            hopefully i've resized this one OK .... i rather like it
            TR4.jpg

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              #36
              Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
              Ohhhh FFS! Now I'll have to finish of the seats to be able to bleed the brakes... does it never end??

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                #37
                Originally posted by dasadrew View Post
                Ohhhh FFS! Now I'll have to finish of the seats to be able to bleed the brakes... does it never end??

                No you don't.





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                  #38
                  Thanks Ian, but I've got a delft blue depressor in the garage already!
                  The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Andy Rundell View Post
                    hopefully i've resized this one OK .... i rather like it
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]34552[/ATTACH]
                    Looks great, bet you are really pleased.

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                      #40

                      Ian

                      does that clamp on the steering wheel,then push down on the brake

                      dave

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by new to this View Post

                        Ian

                        does that clamp on the steering wheel,then push down on the brake

                        dave

                        Yes Dave but a broom handle or piece of 2x1 is cheaper
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by KOY 23 View Post
                          Looks great, bet you are really pleased.

                          yes, very pleased, got a few small bits and pieces to do, nothing major then i'll probably run it regularly for a while and see how it does - made for driving

                          ..... Andy

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                            #43
                            Thanks to everyones help - I completed the changing of the brake fluid and the master cylinder at the weekend.

                            Just in case it helps anyone who is as inexperienced as me, I was having problems removing one of the brake nipples the head was pretty rounded and the access is quite tight. I ordered some replacements from LD Parts and Peter suggested that I should try a HEX socket, i.e. one that only has 6 internal sides to it rather than a multitude which I had. Sure enough that together with a very nifty stubby ratchet did the job.

                            The ratchet in case anyones interested is only 14cm long and came from B&Q which together with the ratchet screwdriver in the photo ( only 11cm long and include 4 bits ) was only £5 for the two and worked a treat, made by a company called Mac Allister

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                            Last edited by Dazza the Stag; 24 August 2015, 22:57.

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                              #44
                              Thats good. Should get plenty of leverage with a 14m long ratchet, enough to get the tightest of nipples undone

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