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    #16
    There is a similarity between dog ownership and Stag ownership which explains the ownership ethos quite well.

    You get the pedigree dog, years of inbreeding before birth created faults in the DNA which will never go away, which may surface at any time, but they’re all establishment and, secretly or not, look down on all others, some are the mutts nuts, a lot are all fur coat and no knickers.

    Then you get the Nuevo Riche, the Labradoodle of the dog world, costs the same as a pedigree pooch but isn’t really, and will never be, kosher because it has header tanks, electric fans, electric water pumps, larger radiators, tiger seats, headlamp conversions etc, etc,etc........

    Then you get the mongrel, some are scruffy, some are handsome but each have their own place in the world and their owners love them, and don't really give a toss what anybody thinks of them.

    Bit like that sketch.......pedigree looks down on Neavo........

    My first Stag, back in ’78 was a bit like an Earl with a Princess sister, all the credentials a pedigree brings but no manners and could never go out in public public without letting the whole class down. No matter what you did to it there was just too many inbred faults. My current Stag was deliberately bought as a mongrel, I would never willingly opt for a pedigree. It came as a Gazza, a scruffy, down at heel example which had all the bits, and ran well for several years but was in need of a little tender care. Now it is nearing the end stage of a prolonged garage love in and it will emerge as a Beckham, never a Lord, never a Neavo but good looking, fit, able to live in the same company as the lord and Neavo, some of whom would always be a little envious, because secretly they’d always wanted to be a bit like Becks.

    Very few of us will ever get back what we have paid out over the years, but hey ho, I didn't buy the Stag as an investment, bought it for fun and I'll be more than happy to run around in my valueless little car.

    John
    Your wife is right, size matters. 3.9RV8

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      #17
      +1
      Richard
      Mabel is a white 1972 Mk1½, TV8, Mo/d.

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        #18
        ?

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          #19
          Ok I am going to throw another iron in the fire! Does anyone know of a Stag fitted with a Daimler Turner V8?

          I am also surprised that a developed version of this engine was not considered originally for the Stag.

          As originally developed for the SP250 Dart Sports car launched in 1959 this 2.55 litre V8 gave 142BHP and 155lb/ft torque only a bit less than the Stag 3 litre V8. This engine was still in production in 1969. It is said that this engine could easily have been upgraded at that time to deliver 155BHP and 170 lb/ft torque or more i.e. similar to the Rover/Buick V8 at that time but from nearly a litre less.

          The engine was more compact than either te TV8 or RV8 and weighed in similarly to the RV8.

          This remarkably smooth free revving V8 that latterly became a favourite of hot rodders and dragsters was available to Triumph as Jaguar Daimler had also been assimilated into BL some years previously..

          Anyone not familiar with Edward Turner then please see HERE

          Turner also developed a 4.5 litre version of this engine however it caused displeasure to the then Jaguar boss Sir William Lyons when a Mk10 Jag fitted with this engine reputedly left a standard Mk10 standing and reached a maximum speed of 135 mph!

          H
          Last edited by HersnotHis; 9 August 2015, 20:58.

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            #20
            Originally posted by jakesmig View Post
            There is a similarity between dog ownership and Stag ownership which explains the ownership ethos quite well.

            You get the pedigree dog, years of inbreeding before birth created faults in the DNA which will never go away, which may surface at any time, but they’re all establishment and, secretly or not, look down on all others, some are the mutts nuts, a lot are all fur coat and no knickers.

            Then you get the Nuevo Riche, the Labradoodle of the dog world, costs the same as a pedigree pooch but isn’t really, and will never be, kosher because it has header tanks, electric fans, electric water pumps, larger radiators, tiger seats, headlamp conversions etc, etc,etc........

            Then you get the mongrel, some are scruffy, some are handsome but each have their own place in the world and their owners love them, and don't really give a toss what anybody thinks of them.

            Bit like that sketch.......pedigree looks down on Neavo........

            My first Stag, back in ’78 was a bit like an Earl with a Princess sister, all the credentials a pedigree brings but no manners and could never go out in public public without letting the whole class down. No matter what you did to it there was just too many inbred faults. My current Stag was deliberately bought as a mongrel, I would never willingly opt for a pedigree. It came as a Gazza, a scruffy, down at heel example which had all the bits, and ran well for several years but was in need of a little tender care. Now it is nearing the end stage of a prolonged garage love in and it will emerge as a Beckham, never a Lord, never a Neavo but good looking, fit, able to live in the same company as the lord and Neavo, some of whom would always be a little envious, because secretly they’d always wanted to be a bit like Becks.

            Very few of us will ever get back what we have paid out over the years, but hey ho, I didn't buy the Stag as an investment, bought it for fun and I'll be more than happy to run around in my valueless little car.

            John
            A very entertaining item John, including a whole swathe of truth.

            Please add LPG Conversion, ZF 4 speed gearboxes and Electronic Ignition to the 'Nuevo' classification, it could catch on!

            Regards

            Steve
            TV8, LPG, EEWP, HiD's, ZF 4, 15" Minilites, SS Bumpers & Exhaust, BMW Servo & Master, Rilsan.

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              #21
              Originally posted by HersnotHis View Post
              Ok I am going to throw another iron in the fire! Does anyone know of a Stag fitted with a Daimler Turner V8?

              I am also surprised that a developed version of this engine was not considered originally for the Stag.

              As originally developed for the SP250 Dart Sports car launched in 1959 this 2.55 litre V8 gave 142BHP and 155lb/ft torque only a bit less than the Stag 3 litre V8. This engine was still in production in 1969. It is said that this engine could easily have been upgraded at that time to deliver 155BHP and 170 lb/ft torque or more i.e. similar to the Rover/Buick V8 at that time but from nearly a litre less.

              The engine was more compact than either te TV8 or RV8 and weighed in similarly to the RV8.

              This remarkably smooth free revving V8 that latterly became a favourite of hot rodders and dragsters was available to Triumph as Jaguar Daimler had also been assimilated into BL some years previously..

              Anyone not familiar with Edward Turner then please see HERE

              Turner also developed a 4.5 litre version of this engine however it caused displeasure to the then Jaguar boss Sir William Lyons when a Mk10 Jag fitted with this engine reputedly left a standard Mk10 standing and reached a maximum speed of 135 mph!

              H
              H,

              I've wondered similar and if they were easier to get hold of, I'd consider fitting one.

              Sad to see it suffered the same BL blindness that favoured the Buick offering. Cheeky buggers even tried to put it in the XJ40 but thankfully Jaguar rejected that idea and then made it impossible by designing the front chassis rail gap too narrow to accept it (early cars only).

              Regards

              Steve
              Last edited by Stagsongas; 10 August 2015, 13:29.
              TV8, LPG, EEWP, HiD's, ZF 4, 15" Minilites, SS Bumpers & Exhaust, BMW Servo & Master, Rilsan.

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                #22
                ...or here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_V8_engines

                There were over 20k made.

                1400BHP!
                Last edited by Pete; 10 August 2015, 20:51.

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                  #23
                  And look where they put the water pump.....

                  Unconvinced on 1400bhp though, unless you fit 10 of them
                  TV8, LPG, EEWP, HiD's, ZF 4, 15" Minilites, SS Bumpers & Exhaust, BMW Servo & Master, Rilsan.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Stagsongas View Post
                    And look where they put the water pump.....

                    Unconvinced on 1400bhp though, unless you fit 10 of them
                    The 1400 HP was real on supercharged drag racer running on Nitro.

                    The car still owned by Russ Carpenter is I understand now on display at Beaulieu

                    See also
                    http://www.britishdragracinghof.co.u...uss-carpenter/

                    and

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04-eHQBm6J8

                    Russ just rebuilt my Daimler V8 Saloon engine with a few mods ........but I doubt that the output is more than 160BHP!

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                      #25
                      I'm rebuilding my old Stag which was purchased by me in 1980. Instead of rebuilding the original TV8 for the third time I'm opting for a 3.9 EFI RV8, ZF24 gearbox, and BMW rear diff. Mongrel pitbull on steroids?

                      Ralph

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                        #26
                        For those interested in some non-statistically valid statistics on this one, the registry on Triumphstag.net says it has 952 Stags registered from around the globe. Of these, there are 49 Rover V8 engines; 41 "other" (type not specified, so some could also be RV8s); and 20 Ford V6s. The remaining 842 still have the Triumph V8 although keep in mind that many of the cars on the registry might not even be on the road. In crude math terms, around 12 percent of the registered Stags have non-TV8 engines while only five percent have Rover V8s installed...of which I, for all you non-believers, am one. :-)

                        Clay

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pete View Post
                          That's it, I'm going to fit a diesel engine.
                          Originally posted by Jeff View Post
                          I heard of somebody who has a 1.8 Ford Escort Diesel engine in his Stag.
                          Now there is one fitted with a non-turbo Peugeot 1.9 Diesel

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                          I guess if it saves a Stag it's OK.......
                          Dave
                          1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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                            #28
                            There's nowt like a Stag that sounds like a tractor eh Dave

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                              #29
                              Saw a lovely black Porsche In town last night, still didn't sound as good as a Stag, in fact is sounded pants!
                              I only do what the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do!

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                                #30
                                Never been able to understand the Porsche thing...

                                They either sound like lawnmowers or hairdryers and the whole idea of an engine in the back on a powerful car is frankly nuts!

                                J M H O....
                                Mike

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