Any Chance someone knows this car

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Sorry, More questions. Any chance someone knows this Stag. Lives in Newton Abbott Devon. Has a Rover engine fitted. Registration number: PDY 877K. Colour Red. Has a Holly Carburettor fitted, is this a good thing or is it better to go back the original Carburettor setup, not interested in warp factor six, does the Holly Carburettor give excessive mpg ?. Maybe the Car was from an ex member of a Club. If someone does know the car any information gratefully received.



Don Kennedy

[Badger]

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Rover V8 + Holley = BAD MPG.

The rover engine never seems to give very good economy when fitted with a holley carb for some reason, no matter how you adjust the jetting. A far better option (assuming you want to stay with a 4-barrel carb) is the Webber Edelbrock 500 carb, and it's a piece of wee-wee to set up in comparison to the holley.

Unless the rover engine is larger than a 3.9, then there isn't really anything to be gained over the standard twin SU carb setup (other than intake noise!) unless the engine has had a change of cam profile and a lot of other internal work anyway. I rebuild rv8 engines and I can get an easy 225bhp on the standard SU's so there really is no need to change to anything else other than for aesthetic reasons.

I removed the strombuggrit's from my Stag (Triumph 3.0 V8 engine) and replaced them with SU's, suitably re-needled to suit, and I can report that it pulls harder, has better throttle response, quicker 0-60 time and gives better mpg than original when driven gently, all feeding through the original airbox setup!

[Giles]

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do the SUs go straight on and fit under the bonnet OK?

[Guest]

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Oh dear. Brain cell hurting again. Seems to be confusion in my brain cellabout fitting the SUs as fitted to the Rover with the Rover Inlet manifold. Will they fit without having to do anything to the bonnet ?.



Many thanks, Don Kennedy

[Badger]

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Lol, the SU's will fit to the (proper) Stag engine with only a few easy mods, but I do not know if there is clearance with a rover engine, that'd be a case of try it and see. Now, maybe that's why someone saw fit toinstall a bucket with 4 holes drilled in it(holley) instead?

One thing's for sure though - if I was ever fitting a 4-bbl carb to either a rover or triumph V8 it'd be the Webber/Edelbrock 500.

[martin]

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Hi, welcome. Find a "proper" Stag, they will ALWAYS be worth a lot more, even indifferent ones, and they sound a million times better than the Rover pretender, I have a great liking and some respectfor that old Buick unit, but in a Stag, it does not belong ! Almost the first question interested strangers ask, and there are a hell of a lot of them, is, "has it got the original engine" answeringno,gives credence tothe myths and devalues them all ! As to Hollys / Webers, WHY ? Good luck. Martin.

[Badger]

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My Stag's for sale still..... 1973 registered, built 1972 so tax-free, original engine with no issues, manual overdrive, mechanically perfect but could do with a bit of bodywork to tidy it up (nothing major, just a poor respray by the previous owner.

Only snag is, it's in the North of Scotland!

[Guest]

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Hi Martin. I completely understand the opinion about having the original engine. I am not a “purist� and while veering towards a Triumph engined Stag the main reason I asked the question is there could be an opportunity to purchase one locally but I may have to be quick in making a decision, not the ideal situation I agree, no harm in looking though. This has a Rover engine with Holly carbs. I was hoping to do more research and look at more cars but this may be an opportunity too good to miss. I will not buy unless I am 100% happy. While I am not completely familiar with the Stag I have enough knowledge about cars especially older cars to make an informed decision and with the kind help from this message board and others and I feel reasonably confident looking at a Stag. The debate about Triumph / Rover engines that I have read seems to show that it is the type of question if you ask 10 people you get 11 different answers, understandable as owners all have different opinions depending upon what they want with their Stag and how they use it. I will be looking at the Stag Saturday.



Hi Badger, Shame so far away, but who knows?. If I am still searching in the future my search could get me that far although I suspect not.



Many thanks to all for your time in replying.



Don Kennedy

[Ian B]

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Don,



I can't see why you would rush anything, over the coming months there will be more and more cars available and the prices are bound to come lower as many people realise that it's a luxury they can do without, my advice for what it's worth is to sit tight and wait until the exact car you are looking for becomes available, nothing worse than rushing into buying a local car only to find another comes up for sale in January thats better and cheaper.It took me over two years to find what I was looking for.

Ian

[richardthestag]

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^^^

What he said

Tis a buyers market donchano :P

[Guest]

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I agree with the comments. I am not rushing into buying a Car but this Stag could be a goodun and unless I have a look I will not know. No harm in looking.

Don Kennedy

[martin]

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Hiya Don, you go for the one you fancy, it is after all about having fun, although lying under it in the rain, I sometimes wonder. I use mine all the time, about 10.000 a year, and, touch wood it's been utterly reliable, apart from the immob. which was hardly Triumph's fault. I have to agree with others, take time and buy carefully, finding a better one a month on is painful. I still say the Triumph engine is the best sounding of ALL the V8s, calmer and deeper than the Americans, andmore resonantthan the Rover. Enjoy. Martin.

[richardthestag]

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martin wrote:

I still say the Triumph engine is the best sounding of ALL the V8s, calmer and deeper than the Americans, andmore resonantthan the Rover. Enjoy. Martin.

Absolutely

Mine was BW35 Auto until recently and I really miss the exhaust noise. The Man o/d that is currently in the car sounds no where near as nice so I have to entertain myself with "Bullitt" double declutched downchanges which are totally necessary because my 6'3" frame means that I cannot get my foot on the clutch easily when the Eiffel Tower is in 4th gear :P

I have heard that tubular manifolds also ruin the noise experience - is that true?

[martin]

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The "Bullitt" soundtrack during the chases was recorded in a GT40, it seems the Mustang was too quiet inside. Tube manifolds are relatively thin stainless, so the underbonnet noise goes up, sadly the tailpipes nod off.

Has anybody got any favourite chase sequences ? My vote goes to the above. Martin.

[Guest]

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nothing worse than rushing into buying a local car only to find another comes up for sale in January thats better and cheaper



Hi Ian, Valid comment although does that notapply to any potential purchase, when do Idecide if I keep thinking a better one may turn up at a later date. I will not be rushed into any purchase, I will know my Car when I see it. Maybe this weekend ?. Having a look at a couple of Stags tomorrow ( Saturday 29th ), have already viewed a couple of cars. Maybe I will findmy Stag tomorrow, maybe not.



Don Kennedy