Just having a general browse through the forum and i'm confused, in reference to the supercharged stag that is being developed with Enginuity and Tony Hart, i notice a few comments regarding the fact that more horsepower is available cheaper from the rover engine. . . . So although the rover engine is no doubt more tuneable [and cheaper] than the triumph engine, what about the devaluation of the car by fitting the rover engine that must knock off at least a couple of grand. . . . Just a thought. Just for the record i feel the supercharged triumph V8 is fantastic and dont they sound so much better than the rover?
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Andy you are dead right the TV8 sounds so much better, In my mind a stag with a buick engine is like a Fish with a bicycle - it just don't belong -
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Oh dear, here we go again................
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Stag Andy wrote:I have never been able to get my head round the ârip the engine out and stuff a rover in itâ why not add a Rover body shell and call it a Rover! But as I have been a member and an owner for a very short time I am sure someone will point out my mistake.Just having a general browse through the forum and i'm confused, in reference to the supercharged stag that is being developed with Enginuity and Tony Hart, i notice a few comments regarding the fact that more horsepower is available cheaper from the rover engine. . . . So although the rover engine is no doubt more tuneable [and cheaper] than the triumph engine, what about the devaluation of the car by fitting the rover engine that must knock off at least a couple of grand. . . . Just a thought. Just for the record i feel the supercharged triumph V8 is fantastic and dont they sound so much better than the rover?
Andrew
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Hi guys i appear to have started something that has been discussed in the past. I'm fairly new to this forum but i am aware that the rover/stag engine arguement has been going for years. So you all know,i would not suggest that a rover engine should not be fitted to the stag its just my preference. I only wanted to make the point that i was under the impression that the "wrong?" engine fitted MAY devalue the car. No offence to the rover guys intended.
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I think the triumph v8 sounds the bees knessbut with limeted tunabilaty, the rover v8 is endlessly tunable more reliable but the in the case of the Stag the triumph wins. no offence to the rover boys i like both engines.
Adrian
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Stag Andy wrote:Andy - a quick look through a variety of ads will show that, these days, most Stags with a Rover 3.5 usually fetch less money than those with a Triumph V8. (given comparable condition etc.)I only wanted to make the point that i was under the impression that the "wrong?" engine fitted MAY devalue the car. No offence to the rover guys intended.
This is determined by the current market - i suspect if you had looked at ads 20 years ago those with a rover conversion may have commanded a small premium !
......Andy
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As DJT say,s "here we go again!"
And it is the same old roundabout....My view...Its your car, do what you want too it..if we were in Cuba and your stag engine ****** up then you would put any engine in available, be it a lawnmower engine or a cement mixer. Believe it or not but those 50's yank tanks are not "original" and yes many have wooden pistons fitted (yes it does work)
You have too take a lateral view..If you have a perfectly running TV8 and you can afford the upkeep why on earth would you take it out and replace it?
If as in the "Cuba effect" youneed to keep your car running at all coststhen youmay considereverything..and in the past that is what happened Triumph Straight 6, Ford V6, Rover V8, American V8 even up to the awesome LT1 :shock:
Butkeep this beautifull car on the road. As for Superchargers TH isnt the only game in town...
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The exception possibly being Monstags ex Monarch car....wasnt that 13K? or there abouts? Hmm let me see how many "original" cars would make that?most Stags with a Rover 3.5 usually fetch less money than those with a Triumph V8. (given comparable condition etc.)
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Hi
As for pricing was it cherished classics that sold a mint stag with a rover v8 for about £11000!!!!
Adrian
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I see none of the Rover engined guys have commented yet! However the way I look at this subject is that the TV8 should not have existed really and in the real world BL should/would have fitted theRover engine to the Stag.
Just like Jaguars and Landrovers have Ford engines because it make sense to do this and keep profits higher.
Anyway despite the stupid lack of vision and good business sense that BL displayed in the 60/70's wedo have one of the few OHC V8's produced in an affordable classic from this period and as everyone will agree there's something very special about the sound of the OHC V8 vs the pushrod V8 from Rover.
As for the comment the Roveris more tunable than the TV8 thats is debatable (Tony Hart for one will give evidence) as to achieve huge power gains from the RV8 you have to increase the capacity andadd fuel injection etc to achieve the silly BHP figures. But the standard 3.5L RV8 tuned up will not kick outmore power than theTV8 tuned up and the TV8 is not as stressed as everyone makes out.
I personally think the TV8 with multi-point fuel injection and an uprated cooling system plus some porting mods is not only powerful but reliable. Further more I have seen loads of RV8's with head gasket failures and also loads of them coming back to Landrover (when they made them) with porosity problems and fractures between the bores especially on the 4.6 litre variants.
At the end of the day if your TV8 is completely K*****ed and you don't have upto £3k for a refurbished one to replace it then the RV8 is and excellent substitute and looks much cooler in the Stag than it ever would in a Rover:P
Stuart...........Tin hat on!
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Sorry Stuart but I am one of the "Dark Side".......I see none of the Rover engined guys have commented yet!
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Snakey wrote:Good to see you have the B*** to comment as all the other RV8 guys are very quiet!Sorry Stuart but I am one of the "Dark Side".......I see none of the Rover engined guys have commented yet!
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Nothing wrong with the RV8 as I said, and as you said why would anyone rip out a perfectly good TV8?
But just for you here's Monstags RV8 beautiful!
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Hi Stuart
I agree with your last commentthe rover v8 i a lot cheaper than the triumph v8 at the end off the day and just asgood.
Adrian
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Maybe the RV8 guys need there beauty sleep!Good to see you have the B*** to comment as all the other RV8 guys are very quiet!
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