Wheel nuts 7/16 with shaft

[Dieter H. Marschall]

Hello everybody,

Today my local workshop tried to ballance the wheels on my Stag. They found out that the nut seats ("maudit soi qui maly pense" - referring to the nuts) in the alloys are conical and presumably designed to hold nuts with a shaft - 14 mm long and 19 mm wide.

Unfortunately the nuts used on my Stag have neither a conical step nor a shaft. So the wheels (actually rims) can only be centered with great difficulty, as they "tumble".

I should not forget to mention that my Stag is a 1971 Mk1, whereas tre alloays are from a Mk2.

What is wrong here? We managed to centre the rims with the aid of 7/16 conical nuts from another car by centering the rims with four conical nuts first and then replace them one by one with the old "non-conical" ones.

Can you please advise?

Kind regards, Dieter.

[Guest]

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Hi Dieter, if I understand you correctly, you say your wheels have conical seats for thewheel nuts, they shouldn't have, the alloys are held on with flanged plain nuts, if you mean the nuts are conical, they are the ones for the steel wheels and should NOT be used. Cheers, Martin.

[stustag]

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Hi Dieter

Your wheel nuts should look like this with shafts!

[StagnJag]

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Better pic - correct alloy nut for Stag Alloy Wheels. The wheels themselves shouldn't have conical recesses in them. Naturally they are shaped to suit these nuts. It sounds like your wheels have been 'tweaked' at some point!

Regards

Dave

[StagnJag]

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...and the wheel.

[Dieter H. Marschall]

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Hello Dave,

The nuts look exactly like the ones in your photo. The rims have a 60° conical recess though.

The problems seems to be that the shafts of the nuts are much thinner than the holes in the rims. So it is hardly possible to centre the rims.

I have seen better solutions to this problem - like e.g. nuts with conical washers or conical recesses and rims with corresponding conical recesses.



Kind regards, Dieter.

[mjheathcote]

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I recall a fellow Stag owner buying some replacement wheel nuts for use with alloys, and although they looked correct, they where slightly smaller on the shank than the OEM ones.

Result being the wheel was not centred, for the alloy wheel relies on the wheel nuts to centre the wheel on the hub.

It was only by chance he discovered this after he though the problem was the wheel being out of balance.

[mjheathcote]

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...the original stag alloys don't have a 60 degree recess...

[Guest]

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Dieter H. Marschall wrote:

Hello Dave,

The nuts look exactly like the ones in your photo. The rims have a 60° conical recess though.

The problems seems to be that the shafts of the nuts are much thinner than the holes in the rims. So it is hardly possible to centre the rims.

I have seen better solutions to this problem - like e.g. nuts with conical washers or conical recesses and rims with corresponding conical recesses.



Kind regards, Dieter.

This is a bit tough Dieter, but it looks like you need replacement wheels, if you have original Stag alloys thensomebody has ruined them. Martin.

[Dieter H. Marschall]

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Hello,

That seems to the problem here, too. Do I see it correctly that the proper wheel nuts for alloys should have shanks (shafts) with a diameter of 19 mm and a length of 13 mm?

Kind regards, Dieter.

[Guest]

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Hi, I haven't measured them, but any Stag supplier will know what you need. Your description of the nuts is accurate and the measurements make sense. Martin.

[stagwingnut]

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hi ,i have also seen smaller nuts ,that look the same as stag ones ,but were off a dolomite sprint ,they have smaller shafts ,cheers graham

[Andy Rundell]

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Dieter H. Marschall wrote:

Hello,

That seems to the problem here, too. Do I see it correctly that the proper wheel nuts for alloys should have shanks (shafts) with a diameter of 19 mm and a length of 13 mm?

Kind regards, Dieter.

Dieter - i measured mine, they are the stainless steel replacements rather than the originals, the diameter of the shaft/shank was 18mm, the length was 13mm

hope this helps......Andy

[V Mad]

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Dieter, will the conical nuts from the Stag steel wheels fit? These are a large diameter and may well be right for your situation.