Screen chrome trim

[toneil461]

Hi,

I have just fitted a new screen seal to my 1975 Stag. How doI fit the chrome trim to this seal? I have fitted chrome trims to other classics, a special tool was needed (made one out of welding wire) does the Stag screen chrome trim need a special tool or is there a knack of fitting?.

Thanks in anticipationfor your valued help!!!

Rgds

Terry..

[Mark S]

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Special tool, pattern can be found in the ROM.

[toneil461]

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ROM??

[Bob Heritage]

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Unfortunately the only way I know of is to fit the chrome trim in the rubber before the screen goes into the car.

Bob.

[stagstr]

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Bob Heritage wrote:

Unfortunately the only way I know of is to fit the chrome trim in the rubber before the screen goes into the car.

Bob.

Yes, the trim must be fitted to the seal and glass before offering it up to the windscreen surround.

Ray

[WHITESTAG]

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Hi Terry!

Have got to do this job very soon myself!!!!- I do know you have to fit chrome to seal first-- am dreading doing this job - can I ask if you find the issue awkward etc as I have heard some real nasties about fitting same!! any tips welcome!

:dude:Cheers!

PHIL

[redstag]

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ROM = repair operations manual

I also fitted mine to the seal before fitting to the car and it wasn't easy.

A friend had a screen fitted professionally recently and they fitted the screen first and then used the tool as per the ROM. Hard work apparently and it took him ages. The tool is used with a pushing action incidentally, and lots of lube.

I had two sets of trim and found that one had a shorter lip that fitted into the seal making fitting easier. Or less difficult - 'easy' doesn't really come into it.

Good luck,

Pete

[NickA]

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I've done this a few times, both front and back trims. I’ve never had any luck fitting the trim before fitting the windscreen. I couldn’t get anything to stay put given the curvature of the screen. Everything just kept popping apart.

I first fit the windscreen,and then insert a thickish chord under the rubber to raise the lip that the chrome trim fits into. The trim is them pushed into position, then with a bit of bend coat hanger (or tool as per ROM),you help the rubber over the trim while removing the chord. Rubber lub helps. Takes hours and several attempts. One of the most frustrating jobs on the Stag IMVHO.

Trouble is a lot of windscreen trims have been slightly distorted over the years which makes them harder to fit. Not sure how good the pattern ones are either.

Nick

Cambridge

[toneil461]

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Hi,

I really do appreciate everyones advice and thank you for taking the time in helping me. What a job fitting the screen in the 1st place, using a new seal made everything tight. I used plenty of lube(washing-up liquid)around the crevices of the new seal and in hindsightI used a littletoo much as the seal came adrift from the screen due to it's curvature. I removed the excess lube and in the end used masking tape to hold the seal to the screen. After 3 Hrs and with the aid of a mate finally strung thescreen in. So due to all the hasstleI am a little reluctant to remove the screen again to fit the chrome trim so I'll have ago at fabricating a tool. If in the endas many have said I have to remove the screen then I'll have a couple of pints and hey-ho I 'll have a go.

Again, many thanks for all your brilliant replies and if any one has any other ideas please advise.

Rgds

Terry..

PS. Getting someone else to do it is not an option!!!

[NickA]

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Careful using washing up liquid as a lubricant. It has ahigh salt content. You don't want any of that left on the seal against the bodywork!

[les M]

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Terry

If you do end up taking the screen out again to fit the trim , then the easy way that I have found to fit every thing together is to

1 fit the trim corners and the verticals to the sealand approx 6" of the horizontals ( the only tool that I have ever used for this is a thin bladed screwdriver)but do not try to fully fit all of the trim, leave the horizontals free for now.

2 use masking tape to hold the trimsin place

3 Fit the seal complete with the trim to the screen (and hold in place by using 4 or 6"gaffer tape in the centre of the screen to hold the seal in place on the screen) and now you can fit the horizontals to the seal.

4 I have always fitted the screen dry(so that i can seal the screen once fitted)and have found that the cord method has never worked for me, I just use a piece of plastic approx 1" wide andhooked at one end( cut down square drain pipe is ideal I've found). I fit the screen into the bottom first and then work my way round pulling the seal through from the inside of the car using the plastic hook and pushing the screen into place, once both bottom corners are in place it gets a bit easier( its the last 2 corners that are the problem areas)

Good luck

Les.

[toneil461]

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Hi Les

Many thanks for your advice.I think your method of dry fitting the screen is very valid as I found that when lubricated the seal started to detach from the screen and this gave me real problems. If I have to do again I'll use your method (no lube). I have fitted many screens using lube & corded method but admit this is the most difficult one I have ever fitted. Although I have technically not completed the job.

Thanks Les

Terry..

[Barry Smith]

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I have considered this before & thought It might be easier to claim on the windscreen cover of the insurance and get a professional to supply the screen & fit it for £50. Perhaps it might be a problem on older cars or maybe someone will say they don't do a proper job?

Regards,

Barry

[Chris810]

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I have fitted screens with and without the tool (which I bought from Andrew Page in Leeds) and fitted the trim berore and after the rubber, fitting the trim to the rubber and then the trim to the screen, is by far the easiest although still not in any sense easy. Pay a professional to fit the screen (hopefully one who has not done one before, it is difficult to get them to do two!).

Your other option is to do it yourself but be prepared to learn some new and interesting words! And remember if at first you dont succeed, pay someone to do it!

NB the mk 1 surround is not the same as the mk 2and mk 2 rubbers are all that is available. You cannot fit a mk 1 surround to a mk 2 rubber

Good Luck!

[jbuckl]

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Stag screen refitting is best not entrusted to modern windscreen firms... (most who have heard anything about stag windscreen will know they cant make any money on the job unless they are charging £350+ (!)....(supply and fit)

It can be fitted by one patient person.

String method is ok but as soon as finisher starts to come off the seal, stop and refit it.

Special tool is required &can be made from 3.2 welding wire or thick coat hanger wire.

Best not to use washing up liquid as windscreen surround panel will rust even more / faster!

Perhaps a 'screen fitting competition' at the national day?

Maybe a development of a bonded screen could be offered by a speciallist, as a modification / improvement?