Ridiculous Question I Know But...

[Russell]

Bear in mind im a novice so dont laugh please, ive never touched anything mechanical in my life and always just put my cars into garages to have work done. But im determined to learn and i want to do things to my Stag myself.

Is this the engine oil sump plug please? As i was going to drain my oil today, its on the side but i had just asumed it would be on the bottom:

[Marco Polo]

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G'day Russel,

Yes that's it, run the engine up to temperature prior to draining the oil, it makes it easier to drain. Don't over tighten the drain plug on refitting, it's a tapered thread.

regards,

Raoul

[Stevekid1]

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Hi Russell,

Yes

Steve

[Russell]

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Cheers Folks, much appreciated! Ive bought a new magnetic Sump Plug so just waiting on it coming, but i thought if i drained the oil today at least its a start eh. Next step, location of the oil filter, left hand side towards the bottom i should find the canister? Any tips here? Pictures anyone? Accessed from below im assuming?

[Greenstag]

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Russel

Depends whether or not you've had a spin on oil filter conversion

If not you're looking for a steel cylinder about 41/2" in dia with a rounded end and a hex nut in the end. Undoing the nut removes the cylinder (canister) and your filter lives inside. Remove it carefully and and don't be tempted to just turn it upside down to empty it without carefully examining where the seal and washer and spring goes and in what sequence. Its likelythe old seal will stay with the car and needs oiking with an oiker!:?Its actually an easy job (as long as you've bought a new filter) I try and fill my my filter with new oil before I refit

If you've got a modern type filter then its even easier..take old one off...replace seal...put a bit of grease on it and spin it back on

David

[Guest]

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Anticipate a mess.
If you warm up the oil, it will be hot coming out of the engine. Don't get burned hands or arms.
Initially, it will stream perhaps a foot out of the drain hole, so be prepared to catch it. Have your catch basin well placed. the stream will quickly diminish, so you will move the basin directly under the drain towards the end. (All of this will happen in less than a minute. Much less)
The oil filter will be equally messy, but your aiming point will be less predictable.
Dave

[Russell]

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Thank you very very much David and Dave. I had assumed that the car had an original type and as such ive bought one. Albeit ive not actually been underneath to investigate. My assumption is based on i bought it off a 90 year old who had it since 1982 and really cant see him having changed to a spin on type. But ill go investigate

So another crazy question, is it the filter that gets filled with oil, or the canister that gets filled and the filter sits in the canister full of oil??

[Guest]

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Spin on and old style filters work the same way. Spin on is a bit more modern and a bit less messy.
"Dirty" oil flows into the canister, then through the filter element. "Clean" oil then flows from the center of the element throughout the engine before returning to the sump where it waits for another trip through the system.
Assuming you have the old type, examine the sealing ring around the top of the canister, and the center hex bolt.
As stated earlier, carefully note the order in which things will reassemble.
When starting the engine after the oil change, do not go above idle until you see oil pressure. The engine has to pump enough oil to fill the canister before it will hold any pressure.
After you have pressure, run the engine about a minute (idle is fine), shut it down and go back under and check for leaks.
It may be above the pay grade of a novice, but you can examine the filter element of the old filter. On the other hand, you will sleep better if you don't.
There are movies on You Tube that will show you what you have in store for your oil change.
Dave

[Russell]

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Very much appreciated Dave

[stag74red]

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Hi Russel, dont know if you have a pair of car ramps but if you do:

I find this gives much easy access, especially if things are over tight.

Run car up on ramps, stop engine.


Remove and replace oil filter.

Remove sump plug, drain oil - refit plug, finger tight.

Push car off ramps (get someone to give you a push, while you man the brakes - DONT START THE ENGINE)

Remove Sump Plug again - make sure all oil is drained - Replace Plug

Fill with oil. Dont overfill.

Mark.

[SAP]

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Russell



Dont leave the engine without oil in - cause if yr like me you'll forget and start the engine - do it all at once ie empty and re-fill then no chance of expensive mistakes

Steve

[GDPR]

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SAP wrote:

Russell



Dont leave the engine without oil in - cause if yr like me you'll forget and start the engine - do it all at once ie empty and re-fill then no chance of expensive mistakes

Steve

A particular no-no if you have the RV8 - if you leave it drained for more than 1/2 an hour, the odds are you will not regain any oil pressure on restart - the oil pump drains back and would need to be stripped and primed with vaseline before it will work again.

Not a problem on the correct (Triumph) V8 though.

Be VERY careful with the oil filter sealing ring if you have the original fitment filter - you have been warned!!

Russ:dude:

[Des N]

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Yes, change before last I ended up with fresh oil all over the drive. Easy to put the canister back slightly mis-aligned. Looks fine but will leak...a lot!!

[Russell]

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Cant thank you enough for all your help guys. Russ its the Orig TV8 in mine. Decided not to bother with this until im off next week when im not rushed - no point rushing and making a cobblers of it!! Particular thanks to Mark there - that was just the kind of explanation i was looking for. Yep got ramps. Was going to buy a trolley jack as i have stands but not sure whats best really.

[GDPR]

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Ramps are best for this job, and a lot easier to use