Dead clock

[IanBosher]

Anyone have an idea how to make my MK1 dash clock work? I've not looked at it yet. Own fuse? Connection? Or just worn out? Thanks Ian

[jagorstag]

Bump

[dave1959]

if you find power on the input tag to the clock. ie 12V.The internal solder like link is blown. See info on VW clocks by kienzel/VDO for the 70's they use the same parts

[brian0443]

These are mechanical clocks with an electric winding mechanism, Dave has just given you the pointer to detailed information. But before you dig too deep... this was my problem: The little adjusting button on the face of the clock was so gummed up with residue of polish, grease etc. that it was not coming free from the pinion, and so preventing it turning. Its spring loaded, so check that it does move in and out, and is not permanently engaged to the 'minute' pinion.
Brian

[Ritchie6]

As a kid in the 60's and 70's I recall my Dad had a lot of cars where the clock had packed up. There was a bit of a joke going round that said "They can put a man on the moon but they can't make a car clock that works" Mine hasn't worked since I bought the car although I haven't actually bothered to investigate because I don't suppose it would be that accurate even if it did.

Richard

[StagJonno]

These are mechanical clocks with an electric winding mechanism, Dave has just given you the pointer to detailed information. But before you dig too deep... this was my problem: The little adjusting button on the face of the clock was so gummed up with residue of polish, grease etc. that it was not coming free from the pinion, and so preventing it turning. Its spring loaded, so check that it does move in and out, and is not permanently engaged to the 'minute' pinion.
Brian

The clock in my '76 Stag differed to the mechanical type, that seems to be more prevalent. It seems to be an electronic, quartz-controlled unit. Of course it could have been replaced by a PO 60 Kienzle bits.JPG62 Kienzle innards.JPG

Unfortunately, I was unable to fix it .. After failing to get a satisfactory product from a specialist supplier a couple of years ago, I ended up with a new clock off ebay for ~£35 - goes well though gains about 3-min a month.

Jonno

[Staggering About]

I modified my clock with one from a Rover 75.
It now keeps perfect time.

http://www.grampianstags.net/clock.htm

Alan

[DJT]

I bought a clock from a Jaguar XJS on eBay over 12 years ago. It replaces the ash tray. It cost about £10 and has not lost, or gained, a minute in that time.

[Robmsharp]

Does anyone know how to dismantle the Kienzle clock?
When I looked it seemed like there was no obvious way to dismantle it.

[brian0443]

Does anyone know how to dismantle the Kienzle clock?
When I looked it seemed like there was no obvious way to dismantle it.

There are lots of postings suggesting the bezel can be unscrewed but on my Kienzel it was peened over all the way round. A bit of careful work with a screwdriver and a few nicks in the metalwork freed it off. As mentioned earlier the problem with mine turned out to be that the little setting knob was jamming the mechanism. Once the glass was released the clock started so I didn't have to explore further. Can't tell you what lies beneath.
Once the bezel is replaced the disturbed area is hidden by the wood of the dash.
Brian

[Danny]

I fitted a clock from a F**d Sierra in place of he ashtray, it keeps great time.

[Robmsharp]

I finally got around to fixing my Kienzle clock - it's not for the faint hearted As it seems the only way to dismantle it is to remove the chrome bezel by carefully unrolling the peened over chrome edging. Once this is done the workings are perfectly accessible and any repairs can be effected, in my case it was a matter of fixing the broken hands before reassembly. Setting the time is a bit of a challenge as the sprung loaded knob is a bit hit and miss but adjusting the accuracy of time is easy enough by using a jewellers screwdriver but I recommend carrying out this part of the process with the clock connected to an external 12v source outside the car as it can take some time to set the time to be accurate.

[Si5]

After living with my Kienzle clock being accurate twice a day for 4 years now I became determined to fix what a lot of expert websites say is not repairable (surely everything is ) Robmsharp is correct the bezel is a bit fiddly but with a bit of car with a screwdriver access can be achieved, in my case the thermal fuse had melted and a number of other stream (Volvo owners web site) hit the main issue here where to buy the appropriate solder to complete the repair, in my case I have use model solder at 70 degree melt and will install an inline fuse also, there are a lot of comments on ' its a difficult solder as the solder iron is so hot it just fails' personally I did not find this and achieved a good connection second attempt. I did give the mech a good clean (carefully) and reoiled the spindles with sewing machine oil on a cocktail stick, also make sure you clean the contacts (as per a set of points) to ensure a good connection for the future.

Mine is currently on bench test which I have hooked up to a standard 9v battery and it is all looking good.

the main reason for my post is just to say it is possible to fix these clocks and to be honest I am no expert so I would have to say my therefore was quite easy to achieve.

[Guerpillon]

Me too, see attached picture

[Manuel]

Take a look to this site

https://www.clocks4classics.com

I have it.


Manuel