Colour of trim 43

[rwdstag]

what colour is trim 43

[thebadleys]

Sadle Tan

Nigel

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[rwdstag]

Did triumph ever do carmine red 82 with trim 43 ??

[DJT]

According to 'the book', Carmine Red (82) was available with Black (11) or Saddle Tan (43) trim from model year 73 (introduction of Carmine Red) to May 75. From May 75 to end of production the the trim colour options for Carmine were Beige (74) or Chestnut (63).

[rwdstag]

That is sooo interesting thanks to all
when I bought Mabel a 74 car she had beige trim Carmine red sunglasse tint glass and a type BW 65 auto green in the middle of the volt metre
any other clues ???

[thebadleys]

Here's terrific reference point for paint and trim combinations.

http://www.stagbytriumph.co.uk/colours.html

The site owned by a Andy Simons it has a wealth of information, well worth bookmarking.

Nigel

[rwdstag]

That’s awesome
so
how has my 1974 car got a 65 gearbox (probably changed)
did have beige interior?? And carmine red all making no sense
also the tinted glass ??

[thebadleys]

It must be a Bitsa model, bits of this and bits of that.

Nigel

[jakesmig]

Mine is a '72 which I treated to a bare metal respray which ended up Damson. Removing the existing paint revealed various different colours had been used over its life to date. Hard to say what has been done to a car with various owners, can't even be sure the number of owners in the log book is a true reflection. I bought it with a 3.5 V8 and an LT 77 box., now it has a 3.9 with T5 box, 4 pot brakes up front and Vauxhall Corsa steering, Hyundai Coupe seats......the list of changes goes on and on...

46 year old toy, I'm not the only one to play with it.

[rwdstag]

Yes I agree but bits together when
i am as sure as I can be the trim was beige
glass is definitely original
gearbox who knows
makes it very intriguing
anyone know when the sundim glass came in (tinted as probably spelt wrong)

[DJT]

Yes I agree but bits together when
i am as sure as I can be the trim was beige
glass is definitely original
gearbox who knows
makes it very intriguing
anyone know when the sundim glass came in (tinted as probably spelt wrong)

Trim and paint colours should be on the Commission Plate - passenger's B-post below the lock catch. Sundym glass was introduced with the Mk2 - LD20001

Glass is 'dated'. Look at the word "TOUGHENED" etched on the glass. There will be a small dot beneath one of the letters or just after the D. This signifies the year the glass was made. If the dot is beneath the T, the glass was made in 71. Beneath the O it was 72, etc. If after the D it was 70 (or 80). Same goes for the word "LAMINATED" on the windscreen of Mk2 cars.

[rwdstag]

You lot are truly amazing
this is what is great about the club /foram
can it please be allowed to go FREE
Say what it wants and not be squashed

Paint said 82 correct
trim said 43 tan
BUT was definitely beige???
type 65 box and an A on the plate not BW ?? For a 74 car ??
All very contradictory?

[Registrar]

Ok chaps, Firstly, don't believe a word of the 'A = BW65' and 'BW=BW35'. That's just bollox that someone has made up to suit a situation when 'A' started to be used instead of 'BW'. Unfortunately for the person who made it up, the change from 'BW' to 'A' was gradual and wasn't done at the same point as the change from BW35 to BW65. This is true of both the 'A' used after 'HE' on the engines and 'A' used as a suffix to the commission number. On engines the conversion to 'A' started at about October 1973 but wasn't completed until about April 1974 and it was a similar timescale for commission numbers. The BW65 box wasn't introduced into Stag until May 1976. I think that someone on the line just lost the 'B' stamp out of their die box in 1973 ! (Only kidding)

Secondly, the StagbyTriumph website is excellent - well done Andy, however, the information which Triumph sent out about colours was not definitive by any means - actually, very little information sent out by Triumph was definitively correct. They operated to broad guidelines but don't believe the dates on colour cards in being exact i.e. if it says something was for 1974 model year cars, then it may well have been applied to earlier cars and later cars than those which were designated as 1974 model year. I believe that the USA specs available were different to the UK ones, but I'm going from memory here as there were some odd colour combinations which went out there - anyone got an original UK jasmine car ?

Finally, Many people played around with Stags a lot in the seventies and eighties. I bought one of my cars in 1984 - 13 years old and already it had gone through eight owners and four colours. In those days, a change of interior was relatively common and there were many changes of commission plates, engines, engine spec, gauges, door cards, doors, alternators, you name it and someone had changed it - and forty years on, who knows what was done. Really clever people even stamped their commission plates to reflect the colour combinations that they wanted to have so that everything looked right. The Heritage Certificate will be the arbiter of that.

People don't really mess with new cars now but in those days it was very common - especially changes of interior, either as a whole or of individual bits. It's annoying to find that what you thought was 'original' really wasn't but change it back, if that's the colour you want, and get on with enjoying the car - because that's what the earlier owner who changed it in the first place was actually doing. However, if you want original, get a copy of the Heritage Certificate and make the car fit that spec. but it really isn't important - except to you.

Dave is absolutely right about the glass dating - but again, don't take the answer as gospel where the glass indicates a date earlier than the date of the car as it would appear as if different glass components were 'saved' in the factory for different times i.e. dated batches could turn up on the production line a couple of months after they were delivered and a couple of more months after they were made. It would be interesting to date the glass on the Heritage car at Gaydon (the last one built) to see if it all shows the same date - I suspect not. The full explanation to Triplex glass dating can be found by googling 'Triplex glass dating' and go to the 'bobine' site.

Best regards

Peter

[rwdstag]

Hi peter
wow you are a star that information should be written down

ooo you just have and assume you have many times
thanks again
Rich

[Registrar]

It's a pleasure to assist in the understanding process Rich.


Peter