What am I going to do about this!

[trunt]

I have been looking at this for weeks and don't know where to start.. Note the circular saw hole that was kindly provided to drain the water! It had glass fiber over it which I think just made things worse.

I guess I may have to break down and get a used panel from the UK shipped over here, Anyone know where I might get one. I don't need the whole OEM type panel, too big (and they don't make em any more) just a goodly chunk that will give me a sporting chance! even with some rust it would be a help.

The bugger is that the rest of the body is not in bad shape..

[joel h]

some pictures would help.👍👍

[mole42]

That looks to me as though you need a reclaimed seat pan - otherwise you have a lot of hand-forming to do! I have not seen another piece of metal that shape, but I wonder if another car uses anything similar that you could rob parts off to rebuild yours?

[Seaking]

Try this no connection they might help ebay item (ebay.co.uk)
283304921749

Cheers Glenn

[trunt]

That looks to me as though you need a reclaimed seat pan - otherwise you have a lot of hand-forming to do! I have not seen another piece of metal that shape, but I wonder if another car uses anything similar that you could rob parts off to rebuild yours?

My friend here has a British car business and I have gone through his scrap yard and new stock of triumph/ mg etc panels, none have the seams that size. So far I have got hold of a seam roller for forming them and a door that has a similar profile front to back. Its the curved �pan� shaped side parts that areiworrying me. I do have my old fuel tank that may provide that kind of shape- I.e the curve with a rounded front. So I was thinking of a 3 part patch, 2 rounded sides and the seamed pan, however before I get into that difficult area I think I� will search for a reclaimed piece in the UK No luck over here (USA) so far.

[new to this]

If it's gone like that on the bottom,what's it like on the top side where the hood drainage tubes to through, just a thought are the ribs the same size as the boot floor

Dave

[trunt]

If it's gone like that on the bottom,what's it like on the top side where the hood drainage tubes to through, just a thought are the ribs the same size as the boot floor

Dave

Absolutely fine! The whole car is in pretty good shape otherwise. I think the problem here was that the area had glass fiber slapped over it. If you can see the black line I drew just in front of the rear seatbelt mounts it�s solid behind that as well.

[trunt]

Just had a call from Dayton in New York State, he has a couple of shells that may provide a replacement pan, so that's good news!

terry

[rwdstag]

Tony white if not as he has all a stag could need

[garyf]

Tony white if not as he has all a stag could need

+1

[Robin Searle]

If the pictures shown are what I think they are, the lowest part of the Stag flooring that sits below each seat, right between where the two thick rubber mats stop that are glued to the floor from the the top of the slope of the floor back to just in front of the wall that supports the rear seat. For several years I 'thought' that my 73 Stag was completely rust free, that is until I decided to replace the carpets and found rust holes similar to the pictures posted. I had been under the car many times and not managed to notice them as the floor was covered with thick tar undercoating and hid it well.
I took my Stag to an expert welder Peter and he agreed to fix the problem,a week later I received a call that all was fixed and when I arrived my car was up on his hoist and I saw that it looked 100% authentic with the ribs all correct. I asked him how he had duplicated them so accurately? he lowered the car and showed me what he had done.

He had made a new sheet metal floor plan for each side of the Stag floor below each seat,he had fibre glassed the original floor under the car,then covered it over with fresh undercoating,did likewise with the top side of the original floor then butt welded his 2 new top sections from the top of the slope down all the way to the rear seat support wall. He said that any judge looking from below would not see any fix as all looked original, I went out and purchased a rubber floor mat 9 feet in length and cut it in half then glued that over the new top side of the floor.
In retrospect my Stag found in Virginia US had sat in storage for 15 years and as the two sections that had rusted were at the lowest point, the wet carpet had caused the un-matted floor sections to rust.out.Peter's job was far cheaper and much better than replacing the total floors in my Stag.

So those with similar problems this may be an alternative.

Robin

[trunt]

Afraid it�s not that simple, the area is right under the rear seat base with the seat foam sitting right on top of it. It�s a pan that drops around 2 inches and is a very complicated pressing that is not available.
Also I�m not a glass fiber kinda guy! The ribs are there for strength. I even suspect that the reason it�s so bad is exactly that.. someone had slapped glass fiber over the area, it retained water and rusted worse than any other area of the car.

[Robin Searle]

Hi Trunt
I think that I am a little clearer now it is not behind the two seats at the front but behind the box member that the rear seat sits on, I thought that it was on the floor of the car itself behind the two seats. Should not be a problem though as the same fix that I had done can be done underneath the rear seat.
1 Fibre-glass and mat the areas that are worn away ,but after first removing the rust, them undercoat at the very bottom and again on top with a thick tar type undercoating.
2 Have a good body guy cut out one piece of fairly heavy duty steel that will fit the whole area and enough to turn up all of the edges 1/2 inch high in all 360 then have that welded to the surrounding body metal.
3 Do as I did find a rubber mat and glue that down on top.

To my mind unless you can find a NOS seat floor then it would have to be replaced by another 40 plus year old seat pan, better to use brand new metal as I did, plus cutting out the whole old floor will weaken the overall structure,with adding a new piece you are then in-fact adding strength.

Robin

[stag8manod]

I had a similar problem with the under seat pan rusting from the inside out due to the sound deadening. I have a friend who is a professional restorer, mainly TRs but has done a couple of Stags. He made me a new section of floor pan. (Beyond me). I then replaced rusty section, going wide to reach good metal. Mig welded, ground and dressed back with a sprayed on coat of underseal it's as good as factory. Very pleased with the result.
Cheers Ian A

[trunt]

Restorers with those kind of skills are very expensive over here, in any case I enjoy and take pride in doing all the work myself.

I�m no pro but an experienced amateur and do have tools like a bead roller, stretcher/ shrunker etc but in this case a single panel is beyond my skills. If it was just the bottom part I think I would be able to handle it but it�s not, so a used panel is the sensible way to go. I seem to have located one now so that�s settled.

Robin, you seem very pleased with your fix but it�s not something I would consider.

Terry