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    Wheel nut sizes again

    I know there was a discussion about this a few years ago but I can't find any conclusions.
    I bought a set of stainless nuts from James Paddock 4 years or so ago because my original nuts were alloy. I have only just come to fit them properly as I have been rebuilding the car. I find that they are smaller than the originals and leave the wheels looser. My findings are:-

    My measurements of the original aluminium nuts which I still have are:-
    • Diameter of the shank which enters the wheel – 18.7mm approx.
    • Diameter of the flange which contacts the wheel – 30.1/30.2mm approx.
    My measurements of the nuts supplied are:-
    • Diameter of the shank which enters the wheel – 17.9mm approx.
    • Diameter of the flange which contacts the wheel – 28mm approx.
    Observation 1:- The nuts do not hold the wheels centrally. If it is the shanks which locate the wheel and the differences above will allow 2 x 0.8mm of run out plus any tolerance between the wheels and the original nuts so 1.6mm plus. It will also be more likely to allow the wheels to come loose.

    Observation 2:- It seems that with some of my original wheels/nuts it is the outer diameter of the flange in the recess of the wheel which centralises the wheel so the reduction of this diameter by over 2 mm will stop this happening. Also the flange is what holds the wheel on so should not be reduced in diameter and therefore area as that will be more likely to permit a wheel to come loose.

    Observation 3:- In addition to the dimensional differences in 1 and 2 above, the original nuts have a taper at the junction of the flange and the shank going from the 18.7mm of the shank to 20.5mm approx.. This is presumably there to provide some form of centring. The nuts you supplied have no such taper.
    Apart from the dimensional errors and design changes above not necessarily centring the wheel correctly and causing imbalance I do not consider them fit for purpose from a safety point of view as they are more likely to permit movement of the wheel and loosening of the nuts.

    I reported this to the supplier and thy say that they supplied almost 1000 last year and had no complaints. They say that as far as they know there is only one source for these nuts so can't supply alternatives but will give me a refund.

    Is anyone aware of a solution to this?

    #2
    I raised this with them at least two years ago and got the same response. Several contributors to this forum have said the same, so telling you they have had no complaints is a straight lie.
    Dave
    1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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      #3
      Yep. Got a Tupperware with a new set of those in the garage - free for anyone who wants to pay the postage!
      The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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        #4
        Anywhere I can get the right size?

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          #5
          Have you tried Peter at LD - he's known for only supplying parts that work/fit...?
          Mike

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            #6
            Sent Peter a message and waiting for a reply. He doesn't seem to list them though

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              #7
              I remember Russ sleeved his to fit snugly. Need a lathe
              Yellow Rules OK

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                #8
                FYI
                I just measured the 4 I bought a few months ago at Rimmers..

                shank=18.5mm no taper
                Flange=29.6mm
                Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

                www.terryhunt.co.uk

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                  #9
                  Rimmer tell me their nuts are OEM spec and made on the original equipment whatever or wherever that might be.
                  The confirm 18.5mm for the shank dia on both stainless and chrome nuts. Seem to be a better diameter but why they are still slightly smaller than my (and other peoples) originals I don't know. They appear to have a dimple in the middle and therefore do look more original.
                  Robsport say 18.2mm for the shank and 29.8 for the flange. On their website the nuts appear to have a dimple also.

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