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    Fitting new SOCTFL door bowls

    I'm not one for adding bling but the door bowls were letting the car down and the, long trailed, SOCTFL door bowls are now available.
    Firstly they only appear to be on sale from Wards at the moment and they will give SOC members a 25% discount on these items. Their online shop will not automatically apply the discount so you have to add "Please apply SOC discount, member number xxxxxx " on the comment section in the checkout then they will then reduce the total when they process the order.

    They look good and for those who haven't been following the story they are made of plastic with a faultless 'chrome' finish.

    Fitting (Mk2)

    Fitting is always going to be a fiddly job as anyone who has played around with the lock system will know, very little access and hands that are too big. They came with an instruction sheet that supplements the ROM.
    Although the manual does not mention it it is almost impossible to remove and replace the bowl without taking the lock mech out. Even with it out access is difficult with the window in place.

    The instructions advised using a block of wood to keep the handle pulled up to enable access to the fixing bolt nearest the lock, I found a folded piece of thick cardboard did the job better and was less likely to mark the new bowl.

    IMG_2884[1].JPG
    Stripping out the old bowl and rebuilding the lift mech into the new bowl is straightforward providing you cleaned up the rods and use a round swiss file to cleanup the holes in the new bowl.
    it is worth heeding the note to start the new screws provided (self tappers) before you try to fit the new bowl as they are particularly difficult to get at when refitting, especially the fixing nearest the lock where the mounting is totally hidden 4 inches away behind the lock mech.
    You must use the rubber gaskets provided as they are thinner than the original gaskets.

    One niggle here is that the new bowls come with a self tapping screw with a 5.5mm hex head. Now I have lived a full and interesting life for 68 years, repairing cars, motorbikes, washing machines and TVs etc without ever using a 5.5mm socket it took me longer to get one than do the job! A cross head screw would, in my opinion, have been much easier to fit as the screwdriver head is much smaller than a socket and allows you to see where you are putting the screw also who hasn't got a screwdriver!
    Refitting the screw nearest the lock took ages until I decided to stick the washer, that must be used, to the mounting hole with double sided tape. This allowed me to guide the point of the screw thru the centre of the washer into the mounting. Trying to insert the screw with the washer over the screw prevented you seeing the hole in the mounting.

    The result is a massive improvement to the door, the picture above does not do it justice.

    Well done Tooling Committee! - Alan

    #2
    Thanks for the write up Alan, saw them at the nec and they did look well finished,

    david

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      #3
      Looks good Alan, should have asked me, i have 5.5mm socket.
      Steve

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        #4
        I really wish my door bowls were bad enough to coax me into a pair of these new ones! Had one in my hands and they really are superb!

        5.5mm must be a metric thing, as it's the most used small socket in my tool box - things like Jubilee clips and PC bits for example.

        Drew
        The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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          #5
          Where did you but them. I can't find them at Rimmers or SOC Spares
          John
          1978 Stag Brooklands Green

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            #6
            Originally posted by JOHNS View Post
            Where did you but them. I can't find them at Rimmers or SOC Spares
            see post 1

            Originally posted by alan_thomas View Post
            .....

            Firstly they only appear to be on sale from Wards at the moment and they will give SOC members a 25% discount on these items. Their online shop will not automatically apply the discount so you have to add "Please apply SOC discount, member number xxxxxx " on the comment section in the checkout then they will then reduce the total when they process the order......

            Well done Tooling Committee! - Alan
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            Last edited by dasadrew; 6 October 2019, 09:48.
            The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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              #7
              Of the 3.5 mm screws tested, about 5 or so I.I.R.C. the hexagon flange head (5.5mm a/f) was the best choice for fitting. It means there is a surface for the socket to push against. There were no posidrives available with a flange in the correct sizes at the time of testing. The flange is also required to spread the load effectively. This aspect was a tricky one to solve because the bosses had to be tested for torque capacity in abs samples before the tools were made, which was done into test bosses taking considerable cost & time. Nearly chose torx heads! The original screw size 10-24 / 3/16 with a 5/16 hex could not be accommodated without increasing the boss outer diameter which wasn’t going to fit our door skins. Thanks for the feedback
              Last edited by jbuckl; 26 October 2019, 16:28.
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