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    Crankshaft pulley bolt

    After rebuilding the engine I'm removing the pulley driven fan and clutch and replacing it with an electric fan. (Electric water pump as well) As you can see the crankshaft snout sticks out beyond the pulley face. The question I have is ...do I just use washers to secure the pulley to the bolt head or is there a better solution?
    Thanks,

    Michael
    Virginia, USA
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    #2
    Some folks use a shorter bolt other use washers. Just noticed your auto cooler. Is it held on with 1 of these: https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-UKC2451. There should be three of them so it can flex a little.

    Sujit
    CA, USA

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      #3
      I use and would recommend a shorter bolt, easy to find. There is then lots of clearance between the bolt head and the radiator to fit drive belts.

      I used a Land Rover BH610281L 5/8 UNF x 3.5 90/110 front radius arm bolt.


      Alan

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        #4
        I fitted a Revotec fan in front of the radiator as well as a 4 core radiator, which is significantly thicker than standard. The viscous fan was running at about 8mm from the radiator and after a while I could see witness marks on the radiator gills, where as the engine moved forward on its bushes under braking and the fan was brushing the back of the radiator.

        When you undo the crankshaft pulley bolt to remove the fan, you will find a long spigot collar, between the centre of the fan and the crank bolt, which you are going to delete.

        I can’t remember the length but if you measure the length of the bolt and separately the spigot and subtract the length of the spigot and that’s the length of the new bolt required. The thread is 5/8” UNF as previously stated by BarkerWilliams. I found it difficult to source them as most business only list up to 1/2” UNF, but I found that Namrick https://www.namrick.co.uk/ had them in stock when I called, although not listed on their website. Don’t forget to ask for a high tensile bolt.

        Last edited by Carboy0; 28 March 2020, 12:32.
        Chris
        Magenta Stag TV8 MOD

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          #5
          If the crankshaft is sticking out beyond the pulley the a shorter bolt on it’s own won’t stop the pulley possibly sliding forwards/backwards on the crankshaft. Washers over the end of the crankshaft or a short section of steel tube would do the job - in conjunction with a shorter bolt, unless the tube is long enough for the standard item.

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            #6
            Originally posted by barkerwilliams View Post
            I use and would recommend a shorter bolt, easy to find. There is then lots of clearance between the bolt head and the radiator to fit drive belts.

            I used a Land Rover BH610281L 5/8 UNF x 3.5 90/110 front radius arm bolt.


            Alan
            I got one of those BH610281L for my Mk1 pulley. The Mk1 power steering pulley is a bit shorter on the nose so it was still a bit too long, I'm going to get a 3" bolt. still need to find washers and spacers though, I want to keep the clutch in one piece, just in case!

            Terry
            Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

            www.terryhunt.co.uk

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              #7
              Terry,

              BMC used a standard set of numbering for hardware copied below. So perhaps you need to lsearch for a
              BH610241L bolt - or whatever length you need.

              Most nuts, bolts, washers and screws on Land-Rover, since Series 3, conform to a generic style part numbering system.

              Alan

              Prefixes:

              AC = Screw, Self-tapping, Countersunk Head

              AB = Screw, Self-tapping, Button Head

              BH = Bolt, Hexagon Head

              FB = Flanged Head Bolt

              FS = Flanged Head Screw

              ND = Nut, Domed

              NH = Nut, Hexagon, Plain

              NN = Rivnut, Nutsert or threaded collapsible sheet metal insert

              NS = Nut, Square type

              NY = Nut, Nyloc locking type

              PS = Pin, Split Cotter

              SH = Screw, Hexagon Head (Screws are fully threaded, bolts are partially threaded)

              WA = Washer, Plain, Form A

              WB = Washer, Plain, Form B

              WC = Washer, Plain, Form C

              WL = Washer, Locking

              WP = Washer, Plain, Form A or special 'penny washer' size.

              First digit:

              1xxxxx = Metric threaded

              4xxxxx = BSF threaded

              5xxxxx = UNC threaded

              6xxxxx = UNF threaded

              Second and Third digits:

              If Imperial thread, this indicates number of 1/16" of thread diameter.

              On Metric threads indicates mm of thread diameter.

              On self-tapping screws, this indicates the screw weight/size.

              x03xxx = 3/16"

              x04xxx = 4/16" = 2/8" = 1/4" or M4 or No. 4 size screw.

              x05xxx = 5/16" or M5

              x06xxx = 6/16" = 3/8" or M6 or No.6 size screw.

              x07xxx = 7/16"

              x08xxx = 8/16" = 4/8" = 2/4" = 1/2" or M8 or No. 8 size screw.

              x09xxx = 9/16"

              x10xxx = 10/16" = 5/8" or M10 or No.10 size screw.

              x11xxx = 11/16"

              x12xxx = 12/16" = 6/8" = 3/4" or M12

              x14xxx = 14/16" = 7/8" or M14 or No.14 size screw.

              Note how the metric dimensions are unrelated to the Imperial dimension.

              Fourth and Fifth digits:

              These indicate the length of the fastener.

              On Imperial this is the multiple of the number of 1/8" long.

              On Metric, the length is in millimetres for Set Screws, but in 5mm increments for Bolts.

              xxx04x = 4/8" = 1/2"

              xxx05x = 5/8" or 25mm long Bolt

              xxx08x = 8/8" = 1" or 40mm long Bolt

              xxx16x = 16/8" = 2" or 16mm long Set Screw or 80mm long Bolt

              xxx20x = 20/8" = 2 1/2" or 20mm Set Screw or 100mm long Bolt

              xxx24x = 24/8" = 3"

              xxx25x = 25/8" = 3 1/8" or 25mm Set Screw

              Note how the metric dimensions are unrelated to the Imperial dimension.

              Last digit:

              This is usually a 1 and may originally have been earmarked to specify a material or surface finish specification.

              The 'L' suffix sometimes found just indicates 'Land-Rover'.


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                #8
                great bit of information thank you

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by barkerwilliams View Post
                  Terry,

                  BMC used a standard set of numbering for hardware copied below. So perhaps you need to lsearch for a
                  BH610241L bolt - or whatever length you need.

                  Most nuts, bolts, washers and screws on Land-Rover, since Series 3, conform to a generic style part numbering system.

                  Alan

                  Prefixes:

                  AC = Screw, Self-tapping, Countersunk Head

                  AB = Screw, Self-tapping, Button Head

                  BH = Bolt, Hexagon Head

                  FB = Flanged Head Bolt

                  FS = Flanged Head Screw

                  ND = Nut, Domed

                  NH = Nut, Hexagon, Plain

                  NN = Rivnut, Nutsert or threaded collapsible sheet metal insert

                  NS = Nut, Square type

                  NY = Nut, Nyloc locking type

                  PS = Pin, Split Cotter

                  SH = Screw, Hexagon Head (Screws are fully threaded, bolts are partially threaded)

                  WA = Washer, Plain, Form A

                  WB = Washer, Plain, Form B

                  WC = Washer, Plain, Form C

                  WL = Washer, Locking

                  WP = Washer, Plain, Form A or special 'penny washer' size.

                  First digit:

                  1xxxxx = Metric threaded

                  4xxxxx = BSF threaded

                  5xxxxx = UNC threaded

                  6xxxxx = UNF threaded

                  Second and Third digits:

                  If Imperial thread, this indicates number of 1/16" of thread diameter.

                  On Metric threads indicates mm of thread diameter.

                  On self-tapping screws, this indicates the screw weight/size.

                  x03xxx = 3/16"

                  x04xxx = 4/16" = 2/8" = 1/4" or M4 or No. 4 size screw.

                  x05xxx = 5/16" or M5

                  x06xxx = 6/16" = 3/8" or M6 or No.6 size screw.

                  x07xxx = 7/16"

                  x08xxx = 8/16" = 4/8" = 2/4" = 1/2" or M8 or No. 8 size screw.

                  x09xxx = 9/16"

                  x10xxx = 10/16" = 5/8" or M10 or No.10 size screw.

                  x11xxx = 11/16"

                  x12xxx = 12/16" = 6/8" = 3/4" or M12

                  x14xxx = 14/16" = 7/8" or M14 or No.14 size screw.

                  Note how the metric dimensions are unrelated to the Imperial dimension.

                  Fourth and Fifth digits:

                  These indicate the length of the fastener.

                  On Imperial this is the multiple of the number of 1/8" long.

                  On Metric, the length is in millimetres for Set Screws, but in 5mm increments for Bolts.

                  xxx04x = 4/8" = 1/2"

                  xxx05x = 5/8" or 25mm long Bolt

                  xxx08x = 8/8" = 1" or 40mm long Bolt

                  xxx16x = 16/8" = 2" or 16mm long Set Screw or 80mm long Bolt

                  xxx20x = 20/8" = 2 1/2" or 20mm Set Screw or 100mm long Bolt

                  xxx24x = 24/8" = 3"

                  xxx25x = 25/8" = 3 1/8" or 25mm Set Screw

                  Note how the metric dimensions are unrelated to the Imperial dimension.

                  Last digit:

                  This is usually a 1 and may originally have been earmarked to specify a material or surface finish specification.

                  The 'L' suffix sometimes found just indicates 'Land-Rover'.

                  Brilliant system that was too.

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                    #10
                    That’s great.. it actually comes up in the revington TR site.

                    not found in the US though, I did find a grade 8 at “the bolt depot” for a few bucks

                    terry
                    Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

                    www.terryhunt.co.uk

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