2pak or cellulose

[stag9304]

hi all

I would like the views please.my car will soon be off to the paint shop i have been given the choice should i have it sprayed in 2pk or cellulose.

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thanks

paul

[marshman]

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If it was my car then 2 pak. I used to be a fan of cellulose but after I sprayed my land rover in 2pak I would never go back. Better finish from the gun, the shine lasts longer and doesn't lose its luster after a couple of years. Much tougher and more resistant to scratching. Some say it is more brittle and chips more easily - personally i don't agree - both will chip easily if applied too thick, on top of a thick layer of primer filler or if the surface was not prepared properly. As with most things the end result is only as good as the preparation. The only advantage of cellulose that I am aware of is that you can get a really deep shine on it that you can't achieve with 2k - the downside to it is the deep shine doesn't last unless you constantly polish.

All IMHO of course - I'm sure others will disagree

Roger

[m9fdb]

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2pak defo but if you want to get that deep shine get them to paint it in 2pak red (i take it you are going for solid red not metalic) then lacqur it as well (known in the trade as clear over base)

The advantages of doing this are that when you polish the car you dont polish the paint off and get red all over your cloth's and you can achieve a really nice deep glossy finish as well which will last. If they flat and polish the laqur well you can get a glass like finish

I am going to be painting my stag black again at some point in the future and will be going with the clear over base method as it is far more durable and gives a lot better results.

Celly is getting hard to get hold of now days and just isnt as good as 2K paint. Another option you could consider (as long as your paint shop use it) is waterbased base coat with 2k clear - water base covers far better than 2k paint so you will save on cost of paint butyou will still have to clear coat it after.

Sorry to go on a bit there but i just cant see the point of celly paint anymore personally even if you are going for an original looking car - i would always go the 2k or waterbase route.

[jamcarr2]

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marshman wrote:

If it was my car then 2 pak. I used to be a fan of cellulose but after I sprayed my land rover in 2pak I would never go back. Better finish from the gun, the shine lasts longer and doesn't lose its luster after a couple of years. Much tougher and more resistant to scratching. Some say it is more brittle and chips more easily - personally i don't agree - both will chip easily if applied too thick, on top of a thick layer of primer filler or if the surface was not prepared properly. As with most things the end result is only as good as the preparation. The only advantage of cellulose that I am aware of is that you can get a really deep shine on it that you can't achieve with 2k - the downside to it is the deep shine doesn't last unless you constantly polish.

All IMHO of course - I'm sure others will disagree

Roger

I would agree with Roger to a point , I think the shine from cellulose is far Superior TO 2Kand it is easier to repair .I would always use cellulose myself but I do all my own spraying ,if you are having it sprayed in a paint shop 2k is probably the better option

JOHN

[andy p]

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2K any day

[marshman]

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jamcarr2 wrote:

I think the shine from cellulose is far Superior TO 2Kand it is easier to repair .I would always use cellulose myself but I do all my own spraying

JOHN

I do all my own spraying and a few years back I would have agreed with you John but then I resprayed my Land Rover in 2k as my paint supplier said I should give it a go. I wasn't after a concours job so I took his advice - it turned out pretty good anyway, after thatI wouldn't go back to cellulose again.

Roger

[DJT]

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I have just been made aware of the price of modern paint. My 2009 Audi A3 was scratched in the car park where SWMBO is a teaching assistant. Luckily it was witnessed and the details of the other party obtained. The car went to a VW Group Approved Repairer to be sorted. The damage was limited to a scratch on the rear bumper just behind the rear wheel, with a very small scratch right on the edge of the rear wing where it meets the bumper.

Damage that would have been sorted with an aerosol and some T-Cut a few years ago.

The bill came to £579.31, which included £239.51 for paint!

Add 4 days for replacement car hire (delivered to my door from the Midlands) and the total bill is around £1000. Glad I am not paying it, but it shows why insurance is so expensive!

Aparently Audi spec (water-based) paint is £130 per litre. The price of lacquer is even higher.

Dave

[stag9304]

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Thanks for all the replies I guess it's 2pk
Paul

[STAG1973]

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2 pak looks great when done properly in a booth etc, cellulose is great for diy car spraying..

But yes 2 pak any day...

Adrian

[peter f]

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My car was sprayed in post office red colour in 2 pack when I bought it seven years ago, and still looks the same in terms of hardness, gloss, and deep shine.
It's the way to go IMHO.
cheers,
Peter

[m9fdb]

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i have access to a booth (and a bodyshop) so it's always 2k for me. Waterbase is expensive but you don't use as much paint.