Oil Filter Housing

[gab1964]

Hi,

First post.

Finding all kinds of missing items on my new project Stag.

Rebuilding the oil filter housing and found that the retaining clip is missing from the bolt.

Can anyone let me know where to get a new one or what size I should order off Amazon?

Thanks in advance

[sujitroy]

welcome. sorry. I don't have details but someone else on this forum was asking the very same question. u may want to call James paddock and see if they have that clip. it holds the stuff behind it from falling out. so I'm assuming u can do away with it.

[DJT]

I am sure Tony White will have a few.

[Lingen]

Gab.
Unless you are a purist, you might consider fitting a spin-on cartridge adaptor. It will allow a larger filter to be used, and make the filthy business of changing the original type a thing of the past.
Mike.

[wilf]

+1 on the spin-on conversion.

[Jeff]

welcome. sorry. I don't have details but someone else on this forum was asking the very same question. u may want to call James paddock and see if they have that clip. it holds the stuff behind it from falling out. so I'm assuming u can do away with it.

Assume that's a typo?

[richardthestag]

-3 yes MINUS 3 for the spin on filter adapter

#1 the locating bolt ever so slightly loosened on me when removing the filter which needed a special tool (I didn't at the time have) to remove the old filter. Thus it had to be stabbed with a screwdriver creating more mess than the original filter. Fit new filter and found that after a few 100 miles my oil consumption was high, discovered that it was dripping past the union between adapter and block. trash another filter to get access to tighten it up, using thread lock this time. Yep it happened again. lobbed it in the drawer and "improved" my stag by going oe.

#2 Spin on filter quality varies wildly by manufacturer. Some are shockingly sh**e, there is a yootoob vid someplace on an American mechanic who disassembled items of the same part number by different manufactures and some of the results were eye opening. Rover v8 in my RR runs with OE land Rover filters, anything else can lead to the oil pressure light taking up to 10 seconds to go out on a cold start. OE is 2 seconds every single time.

#3 And then the whole debate kicked off about the inner o ring, needed to prevent oil from bypassing the filter altogether, possibly not sealing between block and adapter. difficult to check etc etc Oh goody why do we not do away with the filter altogether?

Another upgrade* that just doesn't deliver in my opinion!

OE filter can be removed with minimal mess if you have half a brain

To OP, contact Tony White - he will have one

[Lingen]

I wasn't suggesting that anyone should buy cr-p filters on line. Someone with half a brain might buy them, but even I have been using reputable spin on ones on my Stag for the last 30+years with no issues at all.
From a reliable supplier, and fitted correctly they work well, and are a so much easier to change, especially for those owners who are not as "Athletic" as they used to be.
And what about the engine failures that were due to the end seals on the original type becoming detatched and blocking the flow of oil? No doubt there are some of them still lurking on supplier's shelves.
Mike.

[wilf]

Not had any of the issues outlined above, but I do change the O rings every other oil change.

And how many million vehicles run perfectly well not just in GB but around the world with spin on filters?

[MandM]

I wasn't suggesting that anyone should buy cr-p filters on line. Someone with half a brain might buy them, but even I have been using reputable spin on ones on my Stag for the last 30+years with no issues at all.
From a reliable supplier, and fitted correctly they work well, and are a so much easier to change, especially for those owners who are not as "Athletic" as they used to be.
And what about the engine failures that were due to the end seals on the original type becoming detatched and blocking the flow of oil? No doubt there are some of them still lurking on supplier's shelves.
Mike.

use these ones

Service Items & Kits - SOC Spares simples

[Lingen]

I have done so for as long as I have had my Stag!!
Mike.

[gab1964]

Thanks all.

Car has been sitting in dry storage for the last 18 yrs. With all the fluids left in so I'm sure I'll be back on here soon looking for more help.

I had considered the spin on conversion but thought I'd leave that until a later date as their is so much more to be dealt with.

I was thinking about using a R shaped split pin as a stop gap. Any known issues with that idea?

Apologies, I'm the newbie. How do I reach out to Tony White?

[richardthestag]

Not had any of the issues outlined above, but I do change the O rings every other oil change.

and you know that the inner o-ring is sealing how? love to know honestly because without using engine blue or something like that when assembling and then disassembling to confirm that the inner ring seats I wouldn't trust it any further than I could throw it.

Then you change your seals and quote that, I guess, as a good thing? because they leaked or for peace of mind? What are you using and can you guarantee the it not only leaks to the outside world but also that it doesnt allow unfiltered oil to bypass the filter entirely?

Seems like a right faff to me when I could save a bunch of cash and use these https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GFE147P I am still mobile enough to do it myself, and when I am not I shall have a trusted man or woman to do the job for me.

I also have the advantage of being able to have a root around in the bottom of the filter bowl during oil changes for any foreign or worrying matter.

And how many million vehicles run perfectly well not just in GB but around the world with spin on filters?

very few failures I should think, even crap filters will allow a modern engine to survive the 10 or less years before it is recycled into a BEKO fridge. BUT do you really want to inflict that on your 45year old pride and joy, that wasnt designed to take a spin on filter in the first place? Me? nope


Just my opinion

[richardthestag]

I wasn't suggesting that anyone should buy cr-p filters on line. Someone with half a brain might buy them, but even I have been using reputable spin on ones on my Stag for the last 30+years with no issues at all.
From a reliable supplier, and fitted correctly they work well, and are a so much easier to change, especially for those owners who are not as "Athletic" as they used to be.
And what about the engine failures that were due to the end seals on the original type becoming detatched and blocking the flow of oil? No doubt there are some of them still lurking on supplier's shelves.
Mike.

You appear to have more than half a brain , so which brands would you avoid then Mike?

This is the video I was thinking of https://youtu.be/iTNJLEV8CG8

but this simple search Brings up some Daily Mailesque headlines https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ter+comparison

[richardthestag]

Thanks all.

Car has been sitting in dry storage for the last 18 yrs. With all the fluids left in so I'm sure I'll be back on here soon looking for more help.

I had considered the spin on conversion but thought I'd leave that until a later date as their is so much more to be dealt with.

I was thinking about using a R shaped split pin as a stop gap. Any known issues with that idea?

Apologies, I'm the newbie. How do I reach out to Tony White?

Noobs have to start somewhere

Tony White has an ad in the for sale section here https://www.socforum.com/forum/forum...rs-of-hoarding ping him a personal message, let me know if you need help. Some other kindly person here may have his phone number to share with you

The r clip holds down the spring and the non return anti drain back part of the filter which can be thrown out with the old paper filter. Make sure that you have all the bits. It can be ignored but does hold the bolt in place when removing or replacing the filter housing. An R clip would do the same thing I guess.

I cannot right now find a pic of what the component looks like that the filter sits on top of and is pushed against the block face by the large spring.

Filters can be a faff as Mike "Lingen" pointed out. There was a long time ago a batch of filters with cardboard rings that could shift and block the oil return... I use these filters https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GFE147P available elsewhere but this was the first on my search.

Be sure that when you refit the filter bowl that it seats inside the machined face of on the block as you are tightening the bolt.

oil, plenty will have opinions But this stuff I like https://www.classic-oils.net/Classic...Heritage-20W50 I buy enough to get free delivery thrown in too.