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    New Year Makeover - Dashboard questions

    Happy New Year Stags!

    I have arranged for my 1976 White Stag to be resprayed in January - It currently looks nice, but a close look can see that some panels have been painted in the past and the color match is variable - and not so glossy as I'd like it. I'm keeping the same colour (Glacier White, I believe, could be Old English) and doing a few other updates to make it look even more beautiful. However, the main reason for this post is I want to replace the current dashboard. The car is, as far as I can tell, completely original - Triumph v8 engine, gearbox etc etc - some additions to rid it of the overheating issue, but overall is like it should be.

    It has the original dash presently, but it is lacking in lustre and there's a split in the 'wood' of the glovebox that isn't unsightly but it offends my eye, so thought I'd replace it. My main question is what should look for and where is recommended? Preferably from others who've been down this path already. So some questions for opinions and advice, please!

    1) I assume the original dash is a veneer laminated onto a wood base? Not solid and stained and polished wood? What's recommended approach - removing and replacing just the surface veneer? Or, simply stick a replacement veneer over the original? It seems from what I see on line, that sticking veneer over the current dash is the way to go, but I'm a little nervous of surface levels not being as good as they would have been from the factory when complete - I don't want to see annoying lips to the veneer. Or..... is a more expensive approach to replace the wood dash with an entirely new one - and is that recommended? If so why?

    2) Is it best for posterity, to replace with the original colour finish? I am led to believe that it is American Walnut that was standard? A light yellowy colour. The car won't ever be concourse condition, so does it matter?

    4) I'm not opposed to a change, but wonder if darker colours on a white car with black vinyl dash top might be a bit oppressive? I've just seen a video on 'Arry the Stag showing what he describes as Dark Walnut - which looks very nice - 7mins 56s into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or20l8ufoPw​ and I think would complement the white car. Any recommendations as to what finish looks particularly effective? It's an Automatic box. Steering wheel is not wood, so no issue with matching them.

    5) When I Google 'Replacement Dashboard for Triumph Stag' I get loads of ebay hits at around the £100 mark (which seemed suspiciously cheap to me initially, but perhaps for a veneer it's about right?)
    Walnut Dash Company supplied the veneer used in the 'Arry the Stag video https://tinyurl.com/ya9n7ubm​ and that's £100. Classical Dash have Burr Walnut and Burr Elm options (and alternates on enquiry) - but no prices listed. Anywhere else recommended? I am in Pinner NW London.

    ​6) The clock on my car doesn't work - it's hardly essential but I could replace it. Is there a recommended supplier of an exact fit that looks like the original? Rimmer the most likely? Or I read somewhere that someone had replaced their clock with another type of gauge - can't recall what. Maybe oil pressure? Sensible thing to do, or keep to original?

    I need to spend money soon to have the parts ready for when the car goes in for respray - so any advice would be helpful!

    Enjoy the next Classic year on our cars!

    Greg
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    I have just got a dash done by classical dash in Stokenchurch near Thame ( classical-dash.co.uk ) absolutely beautiful job and is a complete new dash apart from the brackets. This does give the option of changing things if you want i.e. single din radio hole etc also choice of veneers, I had mine done in eucalyptus as its a light coloured veneer and the car is Sapphire blue with a black interior. cost was about £450.00 which I didnt think was too bad as you are getting a complete new dash. Speak to Ian he's extremely knowledgeable & helpful

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      #3
      Thanks for that - I remember when I looked at dashboard vendors over a year ago, not long after buying the car. I came across them but had forgotten that I'd asked some questions of them at the time. And I remember the prince was in the few hundreds, which is what had me puzzled to see so many £100 prices come up. But clearly not comparing apples and apples. I wouldn't blink at paying an extra £350 (over the cost of a stick-on veneer), to be honest. Including fitting that's even less of a premium. And there's no risk of having to faff about making minor adjustments to absolutely fit, etc. I'll maybe take a run out there and look at the veneers first hand. I'm happy enough just to replicate what's there already in terms of apertures. Cheers! HNY

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        #4
        The original veneer is American Black Walnut and finished in a satin clear coat. It is not unknown for this clear coat to split with age, which is probably what has happened in your case. It can be removed and the original veneer given a careful sanding before being re coated with a suitable coating. Be aware that the original coating is impervious to any known paint or varnish remover. It can be removed by carefully softening it with a heat gun and peeling it off with a scraper.
        Dave
        1974 Mk2, ZF Auto, 3.45 Diff, Datsun Driveshafts. Stag owner/maintainer since 1989.

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          #5
          I refurbished mine myself, biggest issue aside from the veneer issues was the plywood backing which was delaminating in places so firstly I got some glue in there and used compressed air to get it spread around as best I could then clamped up until dry. After prepping the surface I used a paper backed veneer fixed with “landau” contact adhesive (which is more high temperature resistant) Not being a fan of the mirror finish that seems the rage nowadays I used an oil modified water based polyurethane satin varnish which goes on easily and has proven tough enough for my stair treads.. so far so good, it’s surviving the USA sun.
          Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

          www.terryhunt.co.uk

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            #6
            A some point I'm going to bite the bullet and get a dash redone. Here are a few folks that have come up from time to time:



            GDK Veneering, Classic Car Dashboard Veneering and Restoration specialists


            Classical Dash are dedicated to the restoration and re-manufacture of dashboards and veneer trims for the classic and vintage car market.


            Wood dash kit, wood dash trims and carbon fiber trims, whatever your interior car needs.


            Sujit​

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              #7
              [QUOTE=trunt;n848703]I refurbished mine myself,

              Thanks Terry - My biggest obstacle (other than my handiwork) is that I don't have a garage large enough to work in, nor one with power or plumbing. We converted the garage at home to a room years ago - I rent a garage about half a mile away for the Stag, but it's barely wide enough to take the car and open one door enough to get in. And the length isn't too much better. It's fine for storage, but that's about it.

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                #8
                Haha. Yes mine is 2 doors and 3 ft away from the sitting room, I did need to extend it by 12ft for some elbow room though.. only issue is the smells that permeate through when I’m being naughty.. - like painting a car! I used to wait for her to go to work but now we are retired…
                Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

                www.terryhunt.co.uk

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                  #9
                  Update; I've now ordered a complete Burr Elm veneered dashboard from Classical Dash in Stokenchurch - think it is a good choice - glossy and an interesting grain pattern. Not too dark but more so than the original. Will take two weeks to get it, then on with the makeover. I have some questions about replacing the lights in the gauges and some of the other switches etc, but will start a new thread I think to focus on them. Have just built a shopping list to refurb seats, fit rear seatbelts, replacing the Sound damper pad for the under bonnet. Going to be spending a fair bit one way and another, but hope the finished article will be delightful - particularly the respray by Classic Dreams.

                  Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by GregT View Post
                    Update; I've now ordered a complete Burr Elm veneered dashboard from Classical Dash in Stokenchurch - think it is a good choice - glossy and an interesting grain pattern. Not too dark but more so than the original. Will take two weeks to get it, then on with the makeover. I have some questions about replacing the lights in the gauges and some of the other switches etc, but will start a new thread I think to focus on them. Have just built a shopping list to refurb seats, fit rear seatbelts, replacing the Sound damper pad for the under bonnet. Going to be spending a fair bit one way and another, but hope the finished article will be delightful - particularly the respray by Classic Dreams.

                    Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions.
                    Great choice i bought from them about 8 yrs ago, superb product.

                    And you can probably sell your old dash to offset cost.
                    RG

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                      #11
                      I wondered that. Though I think i'll just keep it until I sell the car (if ever) in case someone want to restore to original. It would need the varnish removing and refinishing but some diehard traditionalist might be keen.

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                        #12
                        Last year I both fitted a new dash instrument panel to my 73 Mk2 Stag, and decided to have my dash recovered also, due to numerous cracks in the vinyl. Whilst putting all back together, I saw the main wiring harness that runs behind the windshield, had some obvious shorts, judging from its black colour. Why no fire? I will never know, but made me realize that my wiring harness was 51 years old, so I ordered a brand new one, and fitted it.

                        I just added this, so that when working with your dash, take a look see at the condition of your main wiring harness, before putting all back together again.

                        Robin

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                          #13
                          That's good advice! I'm not doing the work myself but will mention it. I did have an auto electrician do some work under the dash when I got a new stereo fitted - he didn't mention any concerns but this time it will be all opened so better to check. Thanks for the comment!

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                            #14
                            Just brief update - Saw the car mid-transformation yesterday - taken longer than anticipated and now have a snag that brings me back to the Forum to try to solve, (new post coming...) but thought I'd update this so far. half the dash board has been fitted and looks very nice. ClassicalDash were slow to deliver, 'about a week' lead time, stretched out to several weeks, but as it happened in my case it didn't delay the rest fo the work going on, as I feared it might initially - I'll post a report and photo when completed. However on what I've seen so far the quality and finish looks very nice..

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                              #15
                              Glad its going well for you, My dash is all in now and looks great well pleased with it
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