Car colour code

[jimmyo06]

Hi I am getting a bare metal respray and I want the car to be painted in Old English white , can someone tell me the coliur code for the guy whos respraying it please, thanks jimmy

[trunt]

Old English white was not a Triumph colour it was a BMC colour.

try this website

Pure white was for the early stags


http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...r=8894&rows=50

[trunt]

Or this one

https://www.mg-cars.org.uk/MGB/mgbpaint.html

If it helps my 67 MGB Old Eng Wt paint cross referenced as "Volvo California White" which is what I used.

[jimmyo06]

Thanks guys

[SteveD]

The code for the Stag white is 19.

[StagJonno]

I believe there are two different shades of white used on Stags - one has a touch of ivory about it, the other is more brilliant white. Confusingly, it seems they both share the same 19 paint code. My bodyshop gave me the spare left over which was labelled Rover 19 and it was a pretty perfect match to mine. Can't check right now as I gave it back for the next lot of remedial work.

[Lingen]

There were various "Shades" of most Stag colours, and most other cars of the period come to that. Presumably it depended on who was blending the paints in the factory when it was being built.
Car body workshops used to have colour cards to place against the car and find the one that was the best match. That would have a code on it that enabled them to mix the appropriate shade.
I used to do it and it was a bit hit-and-miss but better than nothing.. Now they have something electronic which is much more accurate, and can match any colour at all.
Mike.

[Fortyfiver]

I’ve got a Carmine colour but the paint supplier could only find it under rover with a completely different code
Alan

[trunt]

Each paint manufacturer has its own codes that determine the mix for the colour, often you need those codes as a start point. The factory code is often not enough. The body shops are usually looking for those types of paint codes not just the factory codes.

I had a perfect example on my old English white, in the cheaper PPG line of paint they had a code for MG oew but not for the top PPG line, but the cheap line oew cross referred to the Volvo colour.. The top line had a Volvo colour code, it was perfect!

Nowadays they can pretty much get the colour by scanning, I had no codes in PPG for the mallard, so we scanned the underside of the tonneau cover which was obviously original and should not be faded..

[Luigi]

Hi jimmy,

just to throw this out there, my understanding is that most triumphs of that age were painted with cellulose paints, would this impact in any way with the codes of modern paints, as in slightly different codes to match the same colour but more modern paint.??
and do you guys still paint your cars with cellulose??
i hope this does not mess up your post, just interested
luigi

[trunt]

All paint manufacturers have paint codes for many paints, each “code” has a “recipe” to mix base colours to end up at the final colour, I usually see this done by weight. The issue for us is that many modern paints do not bother to provide “recipes” for 50 year old colours.

Each type/line of base colour of paint is different not only in shade but weight. e.g. red paint could be heavier than white paint.

Picture is the California White "recipe" .. but its only valid for this line of PPG paint as the weights shades will vary. Note the numbers, maybe in grams, so they put it on the scales, add the colours until the number is reached then another colour then another.

paintcode.jpg



Terry

[jimmyo06]

wow lots of answers thaks to all of you

[wilf]

You can usually find a paint supplier who will "read" an existing panel or two off a car using a colorimeter and mix replacement paint to match.

[trunt]

I wonder whether these scanners are all an industry standard, if they are then perhaps the club could get all the stag colours scanned and publish the results so that we could take the results to any paint store and get the appropriate colour?

I’ll look into that..

[mole42]

I wonder whether these scanners are all an industry standard, if they are then perhaps the club could get all the stag colours scanned and publish the results so that we could take the results to any paint store and get the appropriate colour?

I’ll look into that..

I had my white (19) car scanned, and a gallon of paint mixed according to the code. It wasn’t the right colour. The code also wasn’t recognised by two other paint suppliers!