Drive Shaft U/J's

[milothedog]

Can anyone answer this question please, I just got 2 UJ's off e-bay for the spare shafts I'm building to convert the car to the circlip type. The boxes they came in are QH boxes and have the word stacked printed on them but the labels say they came from SOC Spares Maidstone and have the part no GUJ116 which according LD's website is correct for the circlip type and they do have circlips and a grease Nipples, the stacked type all appear to not have nipples fitted so is it safe to assume I have the correct ones:?

Ian.

[elvimto]

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Ian,

I am going to do the same I have a set of complete shafts with staked u joints as far as I can see the staked type u joints do not have grease fitting. The clip u joint does I do not have the number [at work right now] The staked u joint has a smaller dia cup about.960 ish and the circlip is 1.063 ish in dia, how are you going to bore the yokes out? and how are you going to cut the circlip groove? If I cannot cut the circlip groove I may just stake them and at least I will be able to grease them. Let me know what you come up with.

Stuart

[milothedog]

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Hi Stuart, I think we have been here before, my spare shafts are the circlip type so it's just a case of rebuilding and fitting them. I'm lead to believe that the yokes are smaller on the staked type so machining them to accept circlips is not a good idea as it reduces the wall thickness too much. Thanks for the info about the uj's the one on the car at present also have no Grease nipples.

Ian.

[BlueMK2]

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Standard from the factory none of the drive shaft UJ’s had a grease nipple, only the prop shaft UJ’s had a grease nipple point, blanked off with a removable threaded plug. Staked UJ’s are difficult to replace unless you have the special tools, I believe Tony Hart has the tool and he posted something about it a while ago. Staked drive shaft can be machined out as the castings are the same for both types of joints but it is a very expensive to have them converted and probably not worth it as you can pick up used shafts for less than the cost of machining them.

[milothedog]

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I don't doubt what your saying but the the workshop manual shows Nipples fitted:? in the illustrations. I thought it was only the staked type were not greaseable!

Ian.

[BlueMK2]

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milothedog wrote:

I don't doubt what your saying but the the workshop manual shows Nipples fitted:? in the illustrations. I thought it was only the staked type were not greaseable!

Ian.

Not much point on having grease nipples on the drive shafts, you could only get to the inner UJ’s under the rubber gaiters without removing the drive shaft or cutting a large hole in the trailing arms.



The BL manual shows prop shaft grease nipples but not drive shaft, BL parts book shows grease nipple for prop shaft but not drive shafts.



Maybe the Haynes or other aftermarket manuals show grease nipples, I don’t have one to look through, I found they make very good fire starters or doorstops but a useless manual as so much is wrong.


All this talk of nipples, not good for the heart you know, off for a cold shower.

[milothedog]

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BlueMK2 wrote:

milothedog wrote:

I don't doubt what your saying but the the workshop manual shows Nipples fitted:? in the illustrations. I thought it was only the staked type were not greaseable!

Ian.

Not much point on having grease nipples on the drive shafts, you could only get to the inner UJ’s under the rubber gaiters without removing the drive shaft or cutting a large hole in the trailing arms.

 



The BL manual shows prop shaft grease nipples but not drive shaft, BL parts book shows grease nipple for prop shaft but not drive shafts.

 

Maybe the Haynes or other aftermarket manuals show grease nipples, I don’t have one to look through, I found they make very good fire starters or doorstops but a useless manual as so much is wrong.

 
All this talk of nipples, not good for the heart you know, off for a cold shower.

Thanks for the info, I'm really to concerned about what was fitted new but was trying to establish I have the correct size UJ. As a point of interest I was quoting the BL manual, have a look at the section on rear hubs. I also have in my box at work a 90 degree grease adaptor, cylindrical with a channel cut in the side, I think it's made by Churchill which I think would fit if the extended nipples are fitted. (a bit awkward but would allow them to be lubed in situ)

[Sheepdip]

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Thanks for the info, I'm really to concerned about what was fitted new but was trying to establish I have the correct size UJ. As a point of interest I was quoting the BL manual, have a look at the section on rear hubs. I also have in my box at work a 90 degree grease adaptor, cylindrical with a channel cut in the side, I think it's made by Churchill which I think would fit if the extended nipples are fitted. (a bit awkward but would allow them to be lubed in situ)

Ian, only way to tell is either to check nr with a supplier (which sounds like you have) or try and fit them. I bought some USA made UJ's at a National day years ago, fitted them and found measurable end float in the yolkes, so always fit genuine Hardy Spicers now.

Paul

[milothedog]

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Cheers Paul, as I stated at the beginning it looks like they came from SOC spares and are QH, I'm just questioning why the Boxes have the word Stacked on them really, they do look right. at the end of the day they were a bargain off e bay so worth the gamble I think.

Ian.

[Sheepdip]

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I don't think you can go wrong in trying them, maybe get a "genuine" one in reserve? As for grease nipples, I agree with the others - the only time I use it is on assembly then forget its there......

Cheers

Paul