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    Header Tank Design Brief

    I have drafted this design brief, andI am thinking of making an alternative bespoke header tank becauseI dont think any of the current ones meet all my requirements.

    Anything you think I have missed or disagree with?



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    Design a header tank system which holds a reserve capacity of coolant, which will reduce the risk that coolant loss may cause damage to the engine or other parts. The tank is to be located within the engine bay and will make redundant the expansion bottle. In the event of a leak in any part of the stag cooling system, if this goes unnoticed, damage may result, therefore some automatic warning would be advantageous. Plumbing of the header tank into the stag system is to be fully considered as part of the design. [/b]

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    Requirement aims (not in any particlar order):

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    · To hold as much volume of reserve coolant as possible above a given datum point (ie top of radiator matrix and/or water pump)[/b]

    · Provision is to be made for use of a pressurised filler cap. [/b]

    · Location of tank to allow for easy access to all other parts in engine bay which may require maintenance[/b]

    · To fit into a typical Stag engine bay with no, or minimal disruption to standard components. Consideration to be given to aftermarket components which may be installed eg fan controller. [/b]

    · Some coolant must continually flow through the tank to help purge any air locks, and allow any additives (antifreeze) to mix. [/b]

    · Installation should not be difficult, and should pick up on existing fixing points where possible. [/b]

    · The header tank must be reliable and rugged. [/b]

    · A driver warning system (eg light or buzzer) is highly desirable[/b]

    · Installation of the header system must not compromise the effectiveness of the cooling system, and should not significantly affect heater operation. [/b]

    · Header tank system to look professional, and aesthetically pleasing (matter of taste though?)[/b]

    · Manufacturing cost to be kept within reasonable limits[/b]



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    Sounds good to me and, if it is as good as your hoods then, if I can afford it, I'll probably have one when you produce them.

    Can't thnk of anything you've forgotten. For me, I'd prefer it to look like it was designed into the car in the first place but I guess some may want to paint it body colour?

    I think I'd prefer plastic but I presume metal will be easier to produce?

    Cheers

    Julian

    Ps I thought you were trying to cut back on work a bit rather than looking for new things to do :?

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      What about the option of a temperature sender to allow the control of an external fan ?

      I saw Deiter had an extra pipe section in the hosing to accomodate this.

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        Thinking about cost... I am sure there are a variety of plastic tanks out there that meet all the requirements and cost next to nothing. I chose my header tank on the basis that it was fairly easy within my limited skills to actually make a mount for it.
        What I would go for is a good mounting kit for a readily available tank.

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          SwissSteve wrote:
          What about the option of a temperature sender to allow the control of an external fan ?

          I saw Deiter had an extra pipe section in the hosing to accomodate this.
          I think chris had this covered in point 4:

          Consideration to be given to aftermarket components which may be installed eg fan controller.

          apologies if i have misunderstood ......... Andy

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            Johnboy wrote:
            Thinking about cost... I am sure there are a variety of plastic tanks out there that meet all the requirements and cost next to nothing. I chose my header tank on the basis that it was fairly easy within my limited skills to actually make a mount for it.
            What I would go for is a good mounting kit for a readily available tank.
            Agreed.

            Design a quick release bracket to fit a Merc tank near the fusebox. Very simple plumbing using the Merc hose gives a minimum of joints.

            Ticks all the boxes of the design brief.

            John.

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              Johnboy wrote:
              Thinking about cost... I am sure there are a variety of plastic tanks out there that meet all the requirements and cost next to nothing. I chose my header tank on the basis that it was fairly easy within my limited skills to actually make a mount for it.
              What I would go for is a good mounting kit for a readily available tank.
              Yes, I take your point John, butwhat I have in mind as a priorityis that the tank should occupy the space to the front of the turret, and I have not seen any standard ones that would have enough volume above the datum point, and would not look out of place. The ones that wrap around the turret look good but I dont know if they have much volume, and Ithink they restrict access to the plugs/wiper motor areadont they?

              Having said that I am not familiar with all the options on that front. It would be useful if people could post pictures (again?) ofany that they think meet the criteria.

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                SwissSteve wrote:
                What about the option of a temperature sender to allow the control of an external fan ?

                I saw Deiter had an extra pipe section in the hosing to accomodate this.
                You can already buy those as a standard item, and anyway I might not want to plumb into that hose, I can plumb into one of the smaller hoses (bypass maybe).

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                  How about one of these for the stag? Very inexpensive, and looks good too. No level sensor but none on the Wards one either.

                  http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html

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                    V Mad wrote:
                    How about one of these for the stag? Very inexpensive, and looks good too. No level sensor but none on the Wards one either.

                    http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html

                    Thats what I got fitted, the company I bought it from can fit a boss for a level switch/looking glass for a few pounds more. Looks good suits the Stag engine.





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                      Well spotted Sukh. Have you got the level sensor fitted? Have you had the chance to check if the header will drain if there is a leak in the system?

                      Chris

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                        A really nice looking engine bay. But it does bring a query to mind. Shouldn't the hose from the top of the tank to the top of the radiator stay up high? If it dips down then air can get trapped at the top of the rad and in the top hose - just what you don't want.
                        Please correct me if I'm wrong.. John

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                          Add:

                          suitable for installation on either LHD or RHD Stag Mk1 or Mk2 and taking into account the different positioning of Wiper Motor, Brake Servo, Clutch Master Cylnder etc.
                          The answer isn't 42, it's 1/137

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                            No trapped air scenarios, all air purged. Water/coolant level is right up to the brass nut on the rad. The pics are dated, now thereare no dips in the top hose from the H/Tank.

                            Sukh.

                            p.s have not tried a leak test, why is that Chris?.

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                              singapore stag wrote:
                              No trapped air scenarios, all air purged. Water/coolant level is right up to the brass nut on the rad. The pics are dated, now thereare no dips in the top hose from the H/Tank.

                              Sukh.

                              p.s have not tried a leak test, why is that Chris?.
                              Its only important if you have a level sensor in the header tank. The level sensor is useless if it doesn't detect a leak in the system ie water level has dropped below the top of the rad matrix whilst the header tank still has plenmty of water.

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