Is it possible to fit a clutch plate the wrong way round??

[Lagnakeil]

Hello!
Unfortunately the answer is "yes."

I had a noise come from the gearbox when letting up the clutch whilst the car was at rest. However, once the car was moving, the gearbox was silent.

The garage that installed it obviously had problems as they had extended the clutch slave push rod to get enough "release bearing travel."

To ensure they had got the bearing in the right place, they had drilled an inspection hole in the bell housing of the gearbox and later covered it with a metal plate and four screws.

I took some pictures to show what I found;

1. Clutch slave push rod and inspection plate.
2. Clutch in place behind spring plate showing "flywheel side" written on flywheel.
3. Worn down spring retainers on clutch friction plate.
4. Close up of wear.
5. Crankshaft flywheel bolts with the corners knocked off where the spring retainers have hit them.

If you see these tell tale signs - you know what's happened.

Regards,
Richard
IMG_20160124_130348.jpgbefore removal - see writing.jpgfriction plate.jpgfriction plate wear.jpgfiled bolts.jpg

[tractorjames]

Sorry to hear of your issues. When I remove a clutch the first thing I do is look for a "FLYWHEEL SIDE" marking, and if I cant find one write it on in pen. Quite how it has been put together without a thought I'm not sure

James

[redstag]

Not surprising they had to extend the pushrod - they have fitted the slave cylinder the wrong side of the engine backplate.

Pete

[tractorjames]

Not surprising they had to extend the pushrod - they have fitted the slave cylinder the wrong side of the engine backplate.

Pete

Correct! Shows how awake I am, hadn't noticed when I looked!

James

[jbuckl]

The garage that installed it = a bit polite under the circumstances me thinks!

Hello!
Unfortunately the answer is "yes."

I had a noise come from the gearbox when letting up the clutch whilst the car was at rest. However, once the car was moving, the gearbox was silent.

The garage that installed it obviously had problems as they had extended the clutch slave push rod to get enough "release bearing travel."

To ensure they had got the bearing in the right place, they had drilled an inspection hole in the bell housing of the gearbox and later covered it with a metal plate and four screws.

I took some pictures to show what I found;

1. Clutch slave push rod and inspection plate.
2. Clutch in place behind spring plate showing "flywheel side" written on flywheel.
3. Worn down spring retainers on clutch friction plate.
4. Close up of wear.
5. Crankshaft flywheel bolts with the corners knocked off where the spring retainers have hit them.

If you see these tell tale signs - you know what's happened.

Regards,
Richard
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[richardthestag]

and this is work you paid for or a previous owner?

regardless of stag or not we are talking pretty bloody basic spannering.

I did notice when doing Paul Goldstars Clutch with him that the new plate wasnt marked. but the old one was so it was a simple case of matching it up. But had we not had that reference point luxury then the tiniest bit of brain usage would have worked it out.

[dasadrew]

OMG! Sort of reminded me why I learnt to do my own car repairs.

On picture 2 you can clearly see the engraving "FLYWHEEL SIDE"

[Richard G]

I had a bottle of Guinness and on the bottom it had a label "open other end"

OMG! Sort of reminded me why I learnt to do my own car repairs.

On picture 2 you can clearly see the engraving "FLYWHEEL SIDE"

[LAMBRETTLAD]

it beggars belief
He/She ever got he job,or the lack of training / supervision they had ,hope they don't do brakes !!!!!

[Lagnakeil]

The brakes are another story......

See picture below. I wondered why the brakes were sticking.....IMG_20150829_165306.jpg

[richardthestag]

ffs ^^^

Same Muckanic?

[Lagnakeil]

I hope so. The good thing is that the poor repairs are basic and can be found easily enough. As for the wiring, well I think we've all experienced trouble with the interior lights at sometime.

[jleyton]

As for the wiring, well I think we've all experienced trouble with the interior lights at sometime.

For anybody who is still experiencing trouble with interior lights, you may want to take a look at my 'Interior lights - an explanation' in the technical section.

Cheers

Julian

[john 4d]

Not all flywheel side's are alike. schwungradseite.jpg Mine reads SCHWUNGRADSEITE.

John