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    Diff rebuild

    I am just doing a diff rebuild on my spare diff, the one in the car is OK-ish but I'm bored.. My first go at this so here goes.

    First issue was pulling the bearings, there is little room there to get a conventional puller and knowing that I will probably need to pull them multiple times I investigated pullers and came up with a "clamshell" puller. It cost $80 and so far well worth the money. It pulls the bearing by clamping it in a shell and pulling on the cage against the race/cup. works a treat, but I had to get the carrier spacer "rod" turned down to 26mm to go inside the carrier but the smallest yellow "clamshell" fits the bearings fine.



    Before I did the pinion I assembled the carrier with no shims and measured the play. I found that very difficult with a dial gauge so used feelers and came up with a base value of 57 thou with pre-load, (less than the original 69 thou..)

    I found that the shims behind the bearing for the pinion height don't seem to be available, they seem to supply shims for the race.. so took a punt and just reinstalled the original. The preload took 4 attempts as the original preload shims (its a shim type!) were worn out and I think one was squished into nothing so had a guess and sneaked up to it with all new shims.

    Once that was in I reinstalled the carrier with no shims and measured the play with the pinion in, came up with 31thou which was the same as before. then installed the shims both sides 31, and 26 and it was obvious that there was no preload, a check with a feeler showed about 2 thou clearance and a quick backlash check looked good so inserted an extra 5 thou on the other side, giving 31 and 31, this time it gave a bit of resistance when inserting so hopefully that's OK now. Backlash was 5 thou, bang in spec.

    Ready to check the gears.. I thought this video is pretty good at explaining it, Note the tip to put drag on the carrier.



    So far I have pulled the bearings 7 times!

    Terry
    Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

    www.terryhunt.co.uk

    #2
    OK here's my pattern..

    maybe too deep towards the root ? but maybe within reasonable area? Or is that too shallow, towards the crown? araahhh!
    '
    Definitely on the toe but my backlash is in spec at 5 thou, could push it to 6.. I'm going to measure the backlash again.





    Last edited by trunt; 12 December 2024, 20:34.
    Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

    www.terryhunt.co.uk

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      #3
      It doesn't look a million miles off, but as you say looks a little bit too much towards the toe. Pinion depth looks about right so all you are left with is the backlash. I would check again and see if you can ease it out to nearer the 6 thou. If not leave as is.


      Not seen that style of clam shell bearing puller before. I have a few different sizes of bearing puller/separators. I would say they have a couple of advantages in certain situations, first they have a virtual knife edge to get into really small clearances and as you do them up they drive in a wedge to help move the bearing and secondly the bearing is still exposed so you can get some heat in there which is sometimes required on stubborn bearings that have been in place for 60 odd years, like the one in the picture below -that needed almost the full capacity of the press & a load of heat before it let go !

      PXL_20241108_162703744.jpg

      Now Stagless but have numerous car projects
      So many cars, so little time!

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        #4
        Go figure...

        I rechecked the backlash and it was at 9 thou, I dont know what changed that.. it is hard to get consistent readings.. So decided that backlash has to be in spec and added 2 thou on that side took 2 thou out the other. And....

        its got better? the pinion may be a shade too deep but..

        I'm going to leave it for today and have a think!




        Last edited by trunt; 13 December 2024, 04:52.
        Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

        www.terryhunt.co.uk

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          #5
          Anyone reading this thinking of doing it themselves may find this attachment helpful to read. Stag diff .pdf by Don Kennedy
          Attached Files

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            #6
            Originally posted by Stagintow View Post
            Anyone reading this thinking of doing it themselves may find this attachment helpful to read. [ATTACH]temp_52337_1734038191389_840[/ATTACH]​Stag diff .pdf by Don Kennedy
            Yes, HOWEVER..

            That sheet has the wrong pinion bearing numbers for a Shim type diff (Castillated nut) it has the numbers for a collapsable type (Nylock) despite having pictures of a shim type.

            Confused the heck out of me!
            Terry Hunt, Wilmington Delaware

            www.terryhunt.co.uk

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              #7
              Thanks Terry for sharing , all helps and to have reference photos to look at
              "The UK,s 2nd Most Easterly Stag" Quad Exhaust- ZF 4 Speed BOX

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                #8
                This info needs to be in the tech section… just my 2p.

                I never did a stag diff rebuild…. Its on my list of to dos.

                the previous needs were always met by td fitchetts.

                have pretty much run out of space here to do anything like that sadly.

                U.K. housing is often small / restrictive it seems.

                Grateful for the space we have.

                Seeing the places available to my colleagues in the USA …. It’s a different league….. but they are in the mid west…. Essential to have heating …. Gets super cold.

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