185 80 14 tyre availability

[nib]

Hi Mark, after running the ex-factory size, I swapped for a set of Uniroyal 195-70-14s and they transformed the handling, understeer has vanished, and wear is good, the speedo has gone out by a tiny amount, but very little at 70 mph. the size is readily available and the prices are good. I stuck to the 185X80X14 for years, but the upgrade is very successful and looks right. Martin.

Hi Martin
There was a guy in Robsport on saturday with this tyre size with chrome wires,looked just right in fact has got me thinking about putting wires on mine.
Mark

[richardthestag]

Dunlop SP200 185/70's on mine, they handle good enough but don't fill the arches as much I might like.

Just realised that they are 9 years old so due for replacement any day soon despite havings bags of tread left on them and looking in great shape.

[Paul Goldsmith]

We've been running on Toyo 195 70 R14s for years now without any issues, whether due to tyre quality or extra rubber on the road the grip was massively improved

When I bought this size I used an online tool to compare the rolling radius of 195 70 R14s (197.48cm), very close to 175 80 R14s (199.68cm) and under reading by only 1.1% but comparing to 185 80 R14s (204.71 cm) they under read by 3.5%. Although this hits fuel consumption, it conversely can reduce the risk of speeding fines ;-)

Here we go, have a play - http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/vis...ize-calculator

BTW : I'm liking the black minilites with polished rims

[Mike Stevens]

Hi Mark. I've looked at the link to Camsgill, posted by Andrew, and the Hankook K715 looks perfect for our Stags. When I bought mine, the then owner recommended Hankooks, which are on the front of mine at the mine. I'm quite sure all my tyres are well over ten years old so I planning to change them and have pretty much decided to go for the K715's 185/80 R14. .
Cheers, Ian

I've just had these fitted to my 2.5PI on Stag/'S' alloys. I took some time in choosing this particular tyre and eventually chose it due to its good rated grip and noise levels. The wear probably isn't an issue as I suspect they'll get time-expired first! I got mine from 'mytyres.co.uk'.

I've done about 300 miles on them so far and have no complaints. Grip does seem good and they are quiet!

I plan to use the same tyre on the Stag - when it's back on the road!

Cheers,
Mike.

[stag_232]

We've been running on Toyo 195 70 R14s for years now without any issues, whether due to tyre quality or extra rubber on the road the grip was massively improved

When I bought this size I used an online tool to compare the rolling radius of 195 70 R14s (197.48cm), very close to 175 80 R14s (199.68cm) and under reading by only 1.1% but comparing to 185 80 R14s (204.71 cm) they under read by 3.5%. Although this hits fuel consumption, it conversely can reduce the risk of speeding fines ;-)

Here we go, have a play - http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/vis...ize-calculator

BTW : I'm liking the black minilites with polished rims

Had a play - brilliant - that interweb thingy is really quite useful - it might just take off after all!!!!!!!
Out of curiousity, does anyone know for sure if the original Stag tyre is the 175/80 R14 or 185/80 R14 - which size will the Speedometer read 100% accurrately on?
I love this Forum.

[nib]

Had a play - brilliant - that interweb thingy is really quite useful - it might just take off after all!!!!!!!
Out of curiousity, does anyone know for sure if the original Stag tyre is the 175/80 R14 or 185/80 R14 - which size will the Speedometer read 100% accurrately on?
I love this Forum.

Hi Ian
I think the original tyre was 185/80 R14 up until about the last couple of years of production when they went over to 175/80 R14.
Although my car is an early model and I would have liked to put the more chunky 185/80 14 back on the Michelin XAS 175/80 14's offered to me were too good to miss,they have the kerbing ring on the side and after saturday I know they work well in an emergency stop situation.
Mark

[stag_232]

Hi Ian
I think the original tyre was 185/80 R14 up until about the last couple of years of production when they went over to 175/80 R14.
Although my car is an early model and I would have liked to put the more chunky 185/80 14 back on the Michelin XAS 175/80 14's offered to me were too good to miss,they have the kerbing ring on the side and after saturday I know they work well in an emergency stop situation.
Mark

Thanks Mark
That ties in nicely with the fact that mine is one 185/80 R14's - still haven't decided for sure which ones to buy but am edging towards the 195/70 R14's. Ian

[dasadrew]

In the ROM and in the "famous" James Taylor definitive book, the stags had first:

185 R14* for homeland market and 185/70 R14 for Federal market
Later the 185 R14* was dropped and all left the factory with 185/70 R14

Drew

(* 185 R14 is actually 185/80 R14 but it's not that usual to actually write the /80 as it's the default cross section anyway.)

[StagnJag]

I believe James Taylors book to be wrong there. The handbook with my Stag (Part No 545105 Edition 9) clearly states 175 HR 14 and that is what I have fitted. Speedo with these fitted is spot on with my GPS so calibrated with these tyres in mind.

Rgds

Dave

[martin]

I believe James Taylors book to be wrong there. The handbook with my Stag (Part No 545105 Edition 9) clearly states 175 HR 14 and that is what I have fitted. Speedo with these fitted is spot on with my GPS so calibrated with these tyres in mind.

Rgds





























Dave

Spot on mate, 175 x 80 x 14. Martin.

[dasadrew]

I believe James Taylors book to be wrong there. The handbook with my Stag (Part No 545105 Edition 9) clearly states 175 HR 14 and that is what I have fitted. Speedo with these fitted is spot on with my GPS so calibrated with these tyres in mind.

Rgds

Dave

Yes, I've got that handbook too - (or rather the reprint from Brooklands Books).

An interesting conundrum....

1970 - German handbook 545108: 185 R 14 & 185/70 R14
1970 - German Repair Operations Manual 545164 Issue 2: 185 R 14 & 185/70 R14
1973 - UK Repair Operations Manual 545162 Issue 2: 185 R 14 & 185/70 R14
1976 - Reprint UK handbook 545105 Edition 9: only 175 R 14

Strange that it implies that they changed to narrower tyres so late in production. Think I'll go down the 185/70 route for mine.

Just in case it's of interest, there is a 2% difference in speedo between 175 R14 and 185 R14

Drew

[nib]

Yes, I've got that handbook too - (or rather the reprint from Brooklands Books).

An interesting conundrum....


Strange that it implies that they changed to narrower tyres so late in production. Think I'll go down the 185/70 route for mine.

Drew

Someone mentioned as they were using these on 2.5 Triumph's and money was getting tight at BL by the mid to late 70's they used 175 R14 on both models or perhaps had loads of 175 R14's hanging about knowing the demise of both models was imminent.

[dasadrew]

Someone mentioned as they were using these on 2.5 Triumph's and money was getting tight at BL by the mid to late 70's they used 175 R14 on both models or perhaps had loads of 175 R14's hanging about knowing the demise of both models was imminent.

Plausible. Bizarre, but plausible!

Drew

[steve]

hi

ive ran mine on michelin 195/70/14 for the last four years ( 12,000 miles) on wire wheels look good, ride good, and still look like new,

regards steve

[DJT]

Think I'll go down the 185/70 route for mine.

Although the handbook states 185/70 R14 tyres as an option, I have been told by a Stag luminary who was a former BL employee that no Stags were actually fitted with this option. The gearing is low enough as it is, especially the automatics, that smaller radius tyres makes no sense.
185 HR 14 tyres were fitted for most of the production , with 175 R14 tyres fitted as standard during the last couple of years of production. All of them were '80' section.